Following on this thread https://www.pajeroclub.co.za/forum/view ... =24&t=6576
I have decided to rebuild my engine, this is the story.
History:
At the time of the failure I suspected the cylinder head had gone, so I pulled the head for it to be replaced with a new one, and once the engine was open I saw some damage to the cylinder wall and what I thought were cracks.
We did a 5 bar pressure test on the head which initially passed, I then pulled and stripped the engine down completely and had the block itself pressure tested, which also passed, no leaks at all from the suspected ‘cracks’ in the sleeve. They pumped the block up to 6 bar. We then removed the valves in head to pressure test the head again and found a slight leak in the no2 cylinder injector tube, and a lot of white residue in the one inlet valve port of no.2 piston – the leak was found; that also answered the question why I did not get bubbles in my coolant when I did various load tests on the engine at silverrons as the head leak was outside the combustion chamber. So essentially every time the inlet valve opened on the downward inlet stroke, some coolant was passed into the cylinder with the boost air and being burnt out the exhaust as steam, and no exhaust could get into the coolant as the intake valve is closed during combustion.
Block Repair:
We then bored no.2 out to 20thou of an inch (0.5mm) to see what the ‘cracks’ looked like deeper in, and they disappeared. Good news, block is fine. We then proceeded to bore the whole block one oversize (99mm from 98.5mm) and cross-hatch hone. What the machinists recon happened is that due to the slight head leak, some coolant was lying on the piston ring slightly rusting the liner along its horizontal line, this process over time slowly ‘etched’ a horizontal defect in the liner which was removed by the re-boring and honing process. They also were baffled at the line in the sleeve, having never seen something like it before, and were adamant the 4m41 blocks are ‘bulletproof’ and do not give issues.
Tools Required:
I bought a 450kg engine stand from adendorf (very important) to work on all sides of engine
, 0-100mm 4 piece micrometer set (check tolerances of crank & cam-shaft, etc.), dial gauge with magnetic stand (Piston protrusion/heights), 500ml groz oil squirt can (to lube all parts up during assembly with DELO400), borrowed a calibrated 20-200Nm Gedore torque wrench for a bottle of whisky. 5kg bag of rags at 5lt of prepsol engine cleaner finished it off to clean up the engine thoroughly before assembly.
Parts Bought:
I bought a full engine bearing set, (small ends, big ends, mains and thrust washers), riken rings and new pistons from alert engine part. I also found a Victor Reinz 4m41 engine overhaul seal & gasket kit, which has every possible O-ring, gasket, copper washer, injector nozzle gasket, main & rear crank seal, intake/exhaust manifold gasket included in it – very convenient indeed. I will buy the correct notch cylinder head gasket once I have done the piston protrusion when the engine is together. I also used the Rienz-o-sil liquid gasket to keep it from leaking (hopefully).
I will post pics and info as I progress.
Pedro the Pajeros’ 4M41 engine rebuild.
- Nick Gibson
- Country: South Africa
- Vehicle: 2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD LWB (AKA Pedro 2.0)
- Location: Durbanville, Mikpunt (Small holding)
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Pedro the Pajeros’ 4M41 engine rebuild.
Last edited by Nick Gibson on Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:10 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Nicholas Gibson
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
- Nick Gibson
- Country: South Africa
- Vehicle: 2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD LWB (AKA Pedro 2.0)
- Location: Durbanville, Mikpunt (Small holding)
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Re: Pedro the Pajeros’ 4M41 engine rebuild.
I am also definitely blanking my EGR off when I saw what the stems of my intake valves looked like from the gunk deposited on them. You can clean the intake manifold, but you cannot get to the deposits on the valve stems without stripping the head.
Ps:
Look how clean my exhaust valve is from using 2so.
Ps:
Look how clean my exhaust valve is from using 2so.
Last edited by Nick Gibson on Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Nicholas Gibson
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
- Nick Gibson
- Country: South Africa
- Vehicle: 2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD LWB (AKA Pedro 2.0)
- Location: Durbanville, Mikpunt (Small holding)
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Re: Pedro the Pajeros’ 4M41 engine rebuild.
Block on stand again being cleaned up.
For what its worth the bolt size and pitch for the rear bell-housing bolts holes in the block (to which the engine stand is bolted) is a M10x1.25mm fine pitch thread. I need 2 x 80mm and 2 x 100mm bolts to make it work. You can also just buy full shank threaded bolts and cut to desired length.
I then fitted the oil squirters, these spray oil into the hole and cavity in the bottom of the piston which keeps it cool.
I also made sure the spring valve inside the bolt works and no debris was in the small spray pipes with low pressure compressed air. I also blew out the oil gallery leading to the squirters and main bearings, don't want any debris from the machinists to block anything up.
I then cleaned the block up and lubed everything up with copious amounts of DELO400 and fitted the bearing shells to the upper block assembly.
For what its worth the bolt size and pitch for the rear bell-housing bolts holes in the block (to which the engine stand is bolted) is a M10x1.25mm fine pitch thread. I need 2 x 80mm and 2 x 100mm bolts to make it work. You can also just buy full shank threaded bolts and cut to desired length.
I then fitted the oil squirters, these spray oil into the hole and cavity in the bottom of the piston which keeps it cool.
I also made sure the spring valve inside the bolt works and no debris was in the small spray pipes with low pressure compressed air. I also blew out the oil gallery leading to the squirters and main bearings, don't want any debris from the machinists to block anything up.
I then cleaned the block up and lubed everything up with copious amounts of DELO400 and fitted the bearing shells to the upper block assembly.
Nicholas Gibson
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
- 4ePikanini
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- Country: South Africa
- Vehicle: 2007 Pajero LWB 3.2 Di-D GLX
- Location: East London, South Africa
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Re: Pedro the Pajeros’ 4M41 engine rebuild.
Amazing post. Thanks for taking the time and walking the extra mile to keep us informed.
Please keep it up.
Please keep it up.
- Nick Gibson
- Country: South Africa
- Vehicle: 2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD LWB (AKA Pedro 2.0)
- Location: Durbanville, Mikpunt (Small holding)
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Re: Pedro the Pajeros’ 4M41 engine rebuild.
Ok Update:
I cleaned the crank up of all the protective oil I applied prior to it's storage and made sure to blow all the oil channels out- I dont want debris! Interesting fact: The engine oil is fed to the small end bearings via an oil channel drilled down the middle of the conrod, which get fed from the big end bearing which in turn get fed via a diagonally drilled hole thorugh the crank-shaft from the main bearing journals.
I fitted the two new orange 'O' rings sandwiched between the sub-block and block that carry oil between the two.
Factory Manual states how wide the bead of sealant need to be for the various parts, this is the thinnest at 2mm.
I cleaned the crank up of all the protective oil I applied prior to it's storage and made sure to blow all the oil channels out- I dont want debris! Interesting fact: The engine oil is fed to the small end bearings via an oil channel drilled down the middle of the conrod, which get fed from the big end bearing which in turn get fed via a diagonally drilled hole thorugh the crank-shaft from the main bearing journals.
I fitted the two new orange 'O' rings sandwiched between the sub-block and block that carry oil between the two.
Factory Manual states how wide the bead of sealant need to be for the various parts, this is the thinnest at 2mm.
Last edited by Nick Gibson on Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Nicholas Gibson
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
- Nick Gibson
- Country: South Africa
- Vehicle: 2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD LWB (AKA Pedro 2.0)
- Location: Durbanville, Mikpunt (Small holding)
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Re: Pedro the Pajeros’ 4M41 engine rebuild.
Cradle is dropped onto the block.
Main cradle Bolts (TTY bolts: Can be Re-used 3 times - per Factory Manual)
20Nm
90 Degrees
90 Degrees (This is very tight - the bolts were creaking so much when doing the last 90 degrees, it felt like they were going to snap!)
Secondary Bolts:
20Nm only Started to torque the bolts: I removed the old rear crank seal and fitted a new one. Must say it is MUCH easier doing it off the car on and engine stand... The housing needs a wider bead of sealant, 3.5mm or so.
Sorting bolts out to re-torque the cradle
Torque Steps are:Main cradle Bolts (TTY bolts: Can be Re-used 3 times - per Factory Manual)
20Nm
90 Degrees
90 Degrees (This is very tight - the bolts were creaking so much when doing the last 90 degrees, it felt like they were going to snap!)
Secondary Bolts:
20Nm only Started to torque the bolts: I removed the old rear crank seal and fitted a new one. Must say it is MUCH easier doing it off the car on and engine stand... The housing needs a wider bead of sealant, 3.5mm or so.
Last edited by Nick Gibson on Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Nicholas Gibson
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
- Nick Gibson
- Country: South Africa
- Vehicle: 2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD LWB (AKA Pedro 2.0)
- Location: Durbanville, Mikpunt (Small holding)
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Re: Pedro the Pajeros’ 4M41 engine rebuild.
I must say, the most tedious part of this re-build is the removal of the old silicone gasket maker off the stripped parts... Man, you need to sit there for ages with a small carpet knife blade and cut/scrape that stuff off!
One done underneath I flipped the engine around to get ready to start fitting the pistons & checking the ring gaps (0.3mm for 1st and 0.4mm for second ring).
Nicholas Gibson
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
- nielsch
- Country: South Africa
- Vehicle: 2003 Pajero 3.2 DiD SWB
- Location: Krugersdorp
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Re: Pedro the Pajeros’ 4M41 engine rebuild.
Fantastic job Nick.
Like everyone else I'm following this post with great interest.
I see no reason why this rebuild wouldn't be 100% successful.
You seem very meticulous in your approach and in my mind that is exactly what is required to get these machines back to their former reliable selves.
It would however mean that future engine rebuilders would be lining up in front of your house!
Best of luck!
Niel
Like everyone else I'm following this post with great interest.
I see no reason why this rebuild wouldn't be 100% successful.
You seem very meticulous in your approach and in my mind that is exactly what is required to get these machines back to their former reliable selves.
It would however mean that future engine rebuilders would be lining up in front of your house!
Best of luck!
Niel
2003 Mitsubishi Pajero 3.2 DiD
1996 Toyota Land Cruiser 4.5 GX
1996 Toyota Land Cruiser 4.5 GX
- Nick Gibson
- Country: South Africa
- Vehicle: 2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD LWB (AKA Pedro 2.0)
- Location: Durbanville, Mikpunt (Small holding)
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Re: Pedro the Pajeros’ 4M41 engine rebuild.
I then did a mock up fitting of the timing plate. This is bolted to the assembled block(s)-(Upper & Lower) with a bead of liquid gasket behind it, also 3mm thick.
I then fitted the lower balance shaft - I got the new 'O' rings with the Victor Reinz service kit.
Side note: The service manual give most, but not all bolt & nut torque values. I had to look up the specific items in the beginning of the service manual in a list. If they were not listed there you had to go on the torque table as below:
Upper balance shaft. This is driven off the oil pump gear, it was the one I found to be about 90 degrees out of alignment when stripping at 0 deg TDC.
Last edited by Nick Gibson on Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Nicholas Gibson
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen