[REAList]

I think the designs for towing nowadays are great.
But this is for road use only.
When you look at Japan you don't see any 4x4 caravans such as ours.
Do they they even know how we use their products.
Doubt it.
I am sure the vehicles' chassis take a knock After seeing how offroad caravans were pulled through sand, getting stuck, jerked etc.
I am not into this stuff.


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[Meettheoceans]

I agree this is a never ending schlepp at the Pajeros!

I must also advice you against using such a long tow bar, I once had a customer with such a tow bar, Pajero SWB, towing an Echo 3 trailer, the tow bar broke off and the cooupler at the trailer was ruined.

The length puts too much pressure on the towbar and coupler head, it will bend and twisted.

Rather try to get the spare wheel higher up, there must be an option.....

[CATS]

You can lift the spare wheel. Stofpad sells a bolt on sparewheel lifter. See this thread

https://www.pajeroclub.co.za/forum/view ... 4&start=50

CATS

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[REAList]

Caravans should be level when towing.
Makes it a bit more complicated.


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[Roelf_le_Roux]

Realist,
I understand your position on this issue, but suggest you consider the following:
With your caravan hooked up, see if a 50mm lift of the spare wheel will make it possible to reduce the length of that extension piece.

The concerns raised about the rotational torsion force on the mounting points are legitimate. Also that "plow" sticking out the back catches on anything and everything.

The spare wheel lifting plate is removable in 10 minutes, if you don't like the idea of driving around with a new Pajero that isn't 100% standard - which I also fully understand.

[cloyd]

Meetheoceans and Peter and Guys,

Sorry, I am not trying to hijack the site but this post is also applicable on the subject of tow bars and both the aforementioned members contacted me icw "my" lifting plate.

Meet.. and Peter, I forgot to add that if one requires that the/a locking bolt be used on my plate, it can be incorporated without any problem. In fact I am using a lifting plate and locking bolt on my Gen 3.

Cloyd

[REAList]

Guys,

I am following this thread with interest.
You are aware that the new paj spare wheel is fully enclosed?
So by how much can it go up?
You should know the bolts holding the tyre from the inside is also to prevent a change in ownership from happening. Lol
I intend to up the sensation wheel size to 16" as it is scraping leaving my driveway.
Can the forces really be so extreme when you keep to a 90kg towbar loading?
Especially when towing on tar roads.


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[peterpot]

I do not tow as heavy a rig as some do (thank goodness - got rid of it!). I also do offroad but also not as serious as what some may do. However the issue of the tow hitch is of concern to me and I believe one should reduce the stresses here as much as possible. I do believe that the extension would place a lot more stress on the tow hitch itself, fastening hardware and chassis.

Maybe some one would like to do the maths?

Thanks Cloyd - I have a Gen4 so locking mechanism not an issue to me.

[peterpot]

I have not got any actual measurements to work with but if you look at the extension I estimate that it is conservatively now 3 times the length to where I would say the "pivot point" or fulcrum of the hitch would be.

The Jurgens Xplorer vans have a conservative tow hitch loading of 100 kgs. If one had to hit a bump that weight / loading would increase drastically. So now with that leverage from the extension, your loading is going to increase at least three times. Maybe some one will do exact measurements and calculations.

http://www.engineersedge.com/calculator ... vers_1.htm

I also believe that one must not think static load but a "cycling" type load which is what fatigues any metal. Imagine a piece of wire or steel rod and you keep bending back and forth - it will eventually break.

[CATS]

Guys,

I am following this thread with interest.
You are aware that the new paj spare wheel is fully enclosed?
So by how much can it go up?
You should know the bolts holding the tyre from the inside is also to prevent a change in ownership from happening. Lol
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REAList

Yes. On the 2016 Pajero the top of the spare is in a hard cover. If you buy the MY2016 "towing kit" as listed in Australia Mitsubishi(not a dealer option in South Africa unfortunately) dealers you get the spare wheel lifter plate plus instruction on how to remove that top black cover plate on top and then you get a full vinyl black spare wheel cover. It unfortunately is not as neat as the full top cover but it still is decent, and as the spare is lifted it sits pretty flush against the sides in any case.

Pajero Gen 4 (NW - 2016) Sparewheel lift

Check out the "Pajero Gen4 sparewheel lifter kit" thread to get an idea. I listed a link to it in a post higher up.

It does not solve the problem completely, well it didn't for me, but I need a high tow ball height due to off road trailer height, but it did alleviate it a bit. In your case with std caravan towball height it might be a complete solution.

The bolts holding the spare on in the gen4 Pajero is actually just there to keep it tight. The cover that surrounds the spare is the locking mechanism that prevent it from changing ownership.

CATS