Anton
Last edited by tonton on Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Tonton,
The nuts and bolts of the recall are that a few motoring journalists in Europe did their standard stability control test by swerving and braking. They found that the stability control didn’t react effectively to prevent the tail from stepping out. They concluded that it could lead to a roll-over and slapped a “don’t buy” tag on the car.
Toyota didn’t hesitate to react and recalled the cars to set the stability control right.
The reaction in SA was interesting. Toyota SA reacted by saying the right hand drive (SA version) didn’t warrant a recall because the fuel tank is on the left and the driver on the right and this makes the car stable, so the tail won’t step out. The bulk of SA Toyota drivers reacted by explaining how Europeans didn’t know how to drive a 4x4 and thus blamed the electronic stability control.
The main aspect that comes to mind when I see this post, now more than a month old, is that not a single Pajero owner jumped in and joked or ridiculed about the issue. I’d like to think it is because we take safety seriously and have respect for other brands.
The nuts and bolts of the recall are that a few motoring journalists in Europe did their standard stability control test by swerving and braking. They found that the stability control didn’t react effectively to prevent the tail from stepping out. They concluded that it could lead to a roll-over and slapped a “don’t buy” tag on the car.
Toyota didn’t hesitate to react and recalled the cars to set the stability control right.
The reaction in SA was interesting. Toyota SA reacted by saying the right hand drive (SA version) didn’t warrant a recall because the fuel tank is on the left and the driver on the right and this makes the car stable, so the tail won’t step out. The bulk of SA Toyota drivers reacted by explaining how Europeans didn’t know how to drive a 4x4 and thus blamed the electronic stability control.
The main aspect that comes to mind when I see this post, now more than a month old, is that not a single Pajero owner jumped in and joked or ridiculed about the issue. I’d like to think it is because we take safety seriously and have respect for other brands.
Last edited by RoelfleRoux on Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Mitsu owners are different, in many ways!RoelfleRoux wrote: The main aspect that comes to mind when I see this post, now more than a month old, is that not a single Pajero owner jumped in and joked or ridiculed about the issue. I’d like to think it is because we take safety seriously and have respect for other brands.
Yes, I really hope we have better things to discuss than bashing other brands ...
(.... or discussing field toilets and modus operandi associated with it)
(.... or telling everybody how bad a VW Amarok is, even before it is launched!)
I have learned long ago that brand A does not better if you bash brand B.
I, for one, am guilty. Toyota didn't get their name just by followers. They truly made/make a good product.
For me it was the denial on certain faults. All manufacturers have their mistakes but if you own up to them then the client is usually willing to forgive. If you deny an obvious fault then people get concerned and it may even cost lives.
For me it was the denial on certain faults. All manufacturers have their mistakes but if you own up to them then the client is usually willing to forgive. If you deny an obvious fault then people get concerned and it may even cost lives.
Thank you! That is exactly why I posted it. Not to bash a brand, but to vent my surprise about a recall that I did not know about. I am a great fan of Toyota, but frankly, if I must wait for the press to tell me about problems, I am concerned...4ePikanini wrote:...For me it was the denial on certain faults. All manufacturers have their mistakes but if you own up to them then the client is usually willing to forgive. If you deny an obvious fault then people get concerned and it may even cost lives.
Anton
I think its a step forward for toyota by sending out a recall in good time. Unfortunately due to their history on previous recall delays the general public will try and sensationalize this.
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There are some recall related skeletons in Mitsubishi's cupboard as well, of course 
Gerrit Loubser 
2003 Toyota Land Cruiser 100 VX TD
2003 Mitsubishi Pajero 3.2 DiD LWB A/T Gone & missed
1999 Nissan Patrol 4.5E GRX M/T: Gone & missed
1996 Toyota Land Cruiser 80 VX 4.5 EFI A/T: SOLD

2003 Toyota Land Cruiser 100 VX TD
2003 Mitsubishi Pajero 3.2 DiD LWB A/T Gone & missed
1999 Nissan Patrol 4.5E GRX M/T: Gone & missed
1996 Toyota Land Cruiser 80 VX 4.5 EFI A/T: SOLD
Elaborate? Must have been before th time of internet media hypeGerrit Loubser wrote:There are some recall related skeletons in Mitsubishi's cupboard as well, of course
Jokes aside, what were they?
Simon Bloomer
Have a look here, Simon:
http://www.jca.apc.org/web-news/corpwatch-jp/83.html
http://www.autosafety.org/safety-scanda ... mitsubishi
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/31/busin ... bishi.html
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/16/ex-h ... all-scand/
http://www.jca.apc.org/web-news/corpwatch-jp/83.html
http://www.autosafety.org/safety-scanda ... mitsubishi
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/31/busin ... bishi.html
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/16/ex-h ... all-scand/
Gerrit Loubser 
2003 Toyota Land Cruiser 100 VX TD
2003 Mitsubishi Pajero 3.2 DiD LWB A/T Gone & missed
1999 Nissan Patrol 4.5E GRX M/T: Gone & missed
1996 Toyota Land Cruiser 80 VX 4.5 EFI A/T: SOLD

2003 Toyota Land Cruiser 100 VX TD
2003 Mitsubishi Pajero 3.2 DiD LWB A/T Gone & missed
1999 Nissan Patrol 4.5E GRX M/T: Gone & missed
1996 Toyota Land Cruiser 80 VX 4.5 EFI A/T: SOLD
