Re: EGT setup
Thanks,

I eventually found some pics CATS took of his engine management module in his GEN3 on the 4x4 community website, looks like the only viable mounting option without cutting up the whole dash :o
Nicholas Gibson

2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots

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"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
Re: EGT setup
oooh, please post link!

I'm trying to think where one would put all the gadget displays... battery indicator, EGT, tyre pressure sensor...
Karl

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Re: EGT setup
Here it is, took a while to find first time round though!

https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sh ... ero&page=2

Looks a bit out the way (I could do without the ashtray), however the alarm should make up for the placement. With some planning, more displays could be added, not sure if the Gen4 dash has the same size ashtray though. I belive the Madman unit is made by the same people who make the MGL avionics unit ;)

I have just ordered my madman unit, will be here in a couple of days! :roll:
Nicholas Gibson

2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots

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Cape Town

"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
Re: EGT setup
I agree. The EGT is not at ideal level when placed at the ashtray level like mine, especially not when newly fitted and one would like to keep a constant eye on the new info awwarded to you :( . But as you get used to the reading you start to relax and trust the alarm to inform you when something is wrong, which I have never had by the way, as you tend to astart knowing when/how to use the loudpedal to manage EGT.

On the topic of other management tools fitted. Please have a look at my pics at CATS Fidling on his 2001 Pajero 3.2 Did

CATS
2009 Pajero 3.2 DiDc Lwb GLS (Gen4) - Casper (Starting to grow on me)
2001 Pajero 3.2 DiD Lwb GLS Manual (Gen3) - Snoopy (SOLD but not forgotten)
2008 Pajero 3.2 DiDc Lwb GLS Auto (Gen4) - Silvester (SOLD)
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Re: EGT setup
Hi all.

I have just recieve my madman EMS2 unit :P , am going to monitor the engine oil pressure, coolant temp and presence, and auto box ATF oil temp. I will be installing the unit over the weekend. (In the ashtray compartment - Thanks CATS!)

I have figured out where and how to mount all the sensors, except the auto box temp sender. Has anyone done this, and if so is there bung or unused port that i can just screw the VDO sensor into? :?

Any ideas, suggestions will be much appretiated.
Nicholas Gibson

2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots

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Cape Town

"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
Re: EGT setup
Hi

Thought I would post some pics of the unit:
Coolant monitoring:
The inline fitting gets spliced/cut into the top radiator hose, the stainless stell machine screw is for measuring the prescence of coolant (works on a AC current), and the other threaded hole is for the VDO 50 - 150 deg C temp sender unit.
Oil Pressure monitoring:
The oil pressure sender unit (VDO 0-10 bar) screws into a brass 'T' fitting wich allows the OEM oil pressure switch to still remain fitted/attached to the motor and work, I will seal them with locktite (blue).
ATF temp monitoring:
Here is the rub, I orginaly though I would want to monitor the engine oil temp, but have since decided to rather monitor the ATF in the auto box's temperature. I am not sure if the supplied adaptor will work in the auto box, as it is a M14 x 1,5 screw thread designed for the engine oil sump plug... :?
Attachments:
Oil temp sender & adaptor.jpg
Oil pressure sender (10 Bar).jpg
Madman EMS2 (Rear).jpg
madman EMS2 (Front).jpg
Inline Coolant fitting.jpg
EMS2 Wiring loom.jpg
Nicholas Gibson

2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots

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Cape Town

"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
Re: EGT setup
I started yesterday morning fitting the madman to my Gen3.

Here are some photos.
Inline coolant fitting installed in top radiator hose
Inline coolant fitting installed in top radiator hose
Coolant temp probe & coolant presence probe.
Coolant temp probe & coolant presence probe.
I cut the top radiator hose and fitted an inline plastic fitting that accepts the coolant temperature sender and coolant presence probe.

I then removed the oil pressure switch (note this switch does not give pressure readings, it merely switches off the idiot oil light on the dash when a prescribed oil pressure is achieved - at approx 30kPa in the 3.5 v6 very low!). I then fitted a brass 1/8" tee to allow me to fit a 10bar VDO pressure sender unit as well as the OEM pressure switch.
Oil pressure switch removed and inline 'T' with pressure sender and switch fitted.
Oil pressure switch removed and inline 'T' with pressure sender and switch fitted.
I then pulled the wire loom through from the dash and through a rubber boot in the firewall on the passenger side, and connected to all the sender units. I was sure to ground the unit on the block of the engine to ensure accurate readings, as even small voltage differences between engine block and chassis will give inaccurate readings as the sensors work on low voltage.
Rubber boot loom access through the firewall.
Rubber boot loom access through the firewall.
5. Wires pulled through firewall.jpg
Wiring the engine
Wiring the engine
Engine wiring finished
Engine wiring finished
10. Extra wires (Fan control & EGT wires).jpg
I then stripped the centre console to fit the unit where the ashtray was situated (never use the ashtray).I tapped power for the unit from the cigarette lighter positive, as this is activated from the ignition switch. It uses a tiny amount of power (30 mA at 13.8 volts), so the fuse should be fine.

I am going to install the oil temperature sender into the auto box sump plug, I have an adaptor the fits the M14x1,5 thread of the sump plug (which is the same as the engine sump plug), but I will only do so when I flush the auto box as per 4epikanini's post, however the wiring is pulled through to the sump plug already.
11. Cente console stripped with EMS loom visable.jpg
12. Testing Madman (Acc - coupled to cigarette lighter - red spade connector).jpg
Finally I am going to cut a piece of supawood (will be sprayed matt black) to fit into the now open ashtray enclosure to fit the madman in, I am also leaving space for a single pole double throw toggle switch to allow me to monitor two oils temperatures/pressures if I want to in the future.
Nicholas Gibson

2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots

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Cape Town

"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
Re: EGT setup
Hi Guys

Here is the very belated pic of my final mounting position of my MadMan EMS2 in the empty ashtray compartment.

Will post youtube video soon of unit operation
Attachments:
Final position in ashtray compartment
Final position in ashtray compartment
Nicholas Gibson

2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots

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Cape Town

"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
Re: EGT setup
Here is the link.

http://youtu.be/95tn67M2t6c

P.S. Sorry of hi-jacking the tread... Only realised it now, however it is a bit too late.. :(
Nicholas Gibson

2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots

Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)


Cape Town

"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
wally
Re: EGT setup
Hi Guys

Ive been following your conversation and trying to make out where we going .A ha it sounds like you guys are on the ball regarding all the engine management systems ect, on our most valuable Pajeros.

I am going on a +- 4500km trip with abunch of friends from baviaanskloof to twescoast and to springbok and back to Tsitsikama.

would you recoment to fit one of the EGT systems to make sure everything goes well,and if so where can i get hold of the unit and what is the cost implications.I am sorry to bother you guys but i am still trying to get my footwork in place in looking after my pajero.(New in the game)

Regards
wally

And thanks for the interesting discussions daly
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