Ek het tans een in my 3000 SWB en FJ Cruiser en het voorheen een in 'n 2.7 Hilux en in 3 Hilux 3.0D4-D's. Slegs een het vir my moeilikheid gegee deur 'n gat in 2 pistons te brand. Ek het sowat 700 000km gery met die verskillende voertuie. Die laaste 3.0D4-D het probleme gegee deurdat ek 'n 9m boot sowat 2000km (Richards Baai na Stellenbosch) in baie sterk wind gesleep het. Die enjin het baie swaar gewerk en het sowat 12km voor die einde van die bestemming opgepak. Die rede was over fueling. Vir 70% van die tyd was die diesel pedaal swaar gebruik om die hele spul aan die gang te hou
My ondervinding is, indien jy die voertuig normaal gebruik, maw nie uiters swaar laat werk nie, die chip presies doen wat hy moet doen en dat dit perfek werk sonder enige nadelige nagevolge.
Wanneer jy egter die enjin swaar laat werk deur die voertuig uitematig "hard" te ry en of baie swaar te sleep vir lang afstande, gaan jy verseker die effek van die over fuelling deur die chip se mapping vererger en skade veroorsaak.
Dit is ook belangrik om die chip te laat "map" vir die doel waarvoor jy die chip laat insit. Die huidige chip in die FJ het verskillende mappings en kan per "bluetooth" vanaf my selfoon verander word vir die verskillende map settings. (Uni-Q Chip)
So wat kos dit om so chip te laat map en waar kan ek dit laat doen? Wil graag kyk of ek beter fuel consumption kan kry.
Gaan dit wise wees ome ers die chip uit te haal en kyk wat dan gebeur met brandstof gebruik?
Gaan dit wise wees ome ers die chip uit te haal en kyk wat dan gebeur met brandstof gebruik?
Hi all,
OK you have now got me totally interested, and it seems there some knowledgeable people taking part in this discussion. I have some questions you might answer.
I had a 2.8 pajero which I put on a dyno set its timing to max performance, adjusted to fuel delivery to a max EGT of 750 degrees measured at in the exhaust manifold close to the exhaust valve. I had some increase in power and better fuel consumption, but more important for me was that the engine was running at its optimal performance which will increase engine life.
Now for my 3.2 DID 2003
1. During mass production, and manufacturing tolerances all engines do not deliver exactly the same power. Are the “maps” not done to tolerances that will allow all engines to perform “ok”, but by redoing the maps (with a piggy back chip) the parameters can be set to the optimal for that specific engine?
2. I don’t want to cause myself unnecessary engine repair costs, by fitting a chip and later having holes in pistons. So to get my 280 000 km engine running to its optimal;
a. How is “tuning” done, can the injector pump timing be set? How?
b. Can the fuel delivery be adjusted? How?
3. Which reputable shop can you recommend?
Andre.
OK you have now got me totally interested, and it seems there some knowledgeable people taking part in this discussion. I have some questions you might answer.
I had a 2.8 pajero which I put on a dyno set its timing to max performance, adjusted to fuel delivery to a max EGT of 750 degrees measured at in the exhaust manifold close to the exhaust valve. I had some increase in power and better fuel consumption, but more important for me was that the engine was running at its optimal performance which will increase engine life.
Now for my 3.2 DID 2003
1. During mass production, and manufacturing tolerances all engines do not deliver exactly the same power. Are the “maps” not done to tolerances that will allow all engines to perform “ok”, but by redoing the maps (with a piggy back chip) the parameters can be set to the optimal for that specific engine?
2. I don’t want to cause myself unnecessary engine repair costs, by fitting a chip and later having holes in pistons. So to get my 280 000 km engine running to its optimal;
a. How is “tuning” done, can the injector pump timing be set? How?
b. Can the fuel delivery be adjusted? How?
3. Which reputable shop can you recommend?
Andre.
I have had a Dastek Chip in my 2.7i Hilux for 10 years and no problems. My fuel pressure was too low so the chip was programmed to over-fuel and did not improve performance but fuel consumption was high. Took it to Arnold Venter of CRD and they fitted more powerful pumps and killed the donkey I had. Now have thoroughbred performance.
Took my Gen 2 1998 3.5 litre automatic to Dastek to see if they could help improve fuel consumption sitting at 22/26 l/100kms. They tested and said engine was running at optimum without it and unnecessary. But somebody there suggested I make use of the Tiptronic manual over-ride to keep revs lower. Fuel consumption improved to 14 l/100km by changing up at 2300 rpm and down at 2000 rpm.
Took my Gen 2 1998 3.5 litre automatic to Dastek to see if they could help improve fuel consumption sitting at 22/26 l/100kms. They tested and said engine was running at optimum without it and unnecessary. But somebody there suggested I make use of the Tiptronic manual over-ride to keep revs lower. Fuel consumption improved to 14 l/100km by changing up at 2300 rpm and down at 2000 rpm.
Hi all,
I had the same hesitation issue on my Gen 4, It was chipped when I bought it.Removed the chip, it went away. Power was good but it wasn't in long enough to feel or test anything. I say take out the bastard thing.
I had the same hesitation issue on my Gen 4, It was chipped when I bought it.Removed the chip, it went away. Power was good but it wasn't in long enough to feel or test anything. I say take out the bastard thing.
I decided that with the next fill up I'll remove the chip and see what happens to my fuel consumption over the next tank or two. Hopefully in that thank or two I'll get used to the little less power that it won't bother me later.vaughn wrote:Hi all,
I had the same hesitation issue on my Gen 4, It was chipped when I bought it.Removed the chip, it went away. Power was good but it wasn't in long enough to feel or test anything. I say take out the bastard thing.
I can always keep the chip for that day when I need the extra power or when heavy loaded or towing and I might need the extra power, but I doubt if I'll put it back once removed.
There might be a dastek for sale soon..
Hi all. I own an 07 3,2 with a Kaufner chip and have not
experienced a pronounced hesitation which was commented on.
Fuel consumption has improved by 1,38L per 100km during highway driving and 0.9L in the urban cycle. Definite torque improvement
combined with good throttle response makes it a pleasure to drive...
experienced a pronounced hesitation which was commented on.
Fuel consumption has improved by 1,38L per 100km during highway driving and 0.9L in the urban cycle. Definite torque improvement
combined with good throttle response makes it a pleasure to drive...
I have a 2009 SWB 3.2 Di-D with 155 000 on the clock. I had a Dastek Chip installed by SAC in Vanderbijlpark approximately 70 000km back. Power and Torque is fantastic and fuel consumption dropped between 1 and 1.5 liter per 100 km. Absolutely no problem. I also had the same installed on a VW Sharan 2.0TDi at 40 000 km, years back to try and kill the dead spot from the turbo lag. Very little success with that but the fuel consumption dropped drastically and again the Power and Torque is amazing. My friend took it over from me and at 243 000km now on the clock, he is still as happy with it as I was the first day. The important issue I believe is, who is doing the installation. Make sure you have it done by a reliable fitment center. Frans
Hi gents, I have two thoughts about the issue: 1. Reading the posts it confirms an issue a friend of mine had; to make a long story short he took his vehicle in for remapping of the chip at a respected vendor in Boksburg but they were unsuccessful apparently because of low fuel pressure delivered by the pump. They wanted to replace it at great cost. Conclusion; the fuel delivery pressure is important. Any comments on this?
2. When I look at modern vehicles, some hi performers have a small red button that turns the machine into a monster. So clearly there is a map for economy and one for performance. When a chip is installed the mapping must then be done to favor one of these two settings. Over fueling is not necessarily a requirement but can be done to override factory safeguards that attempts to ensure engine life and reliability. IMHO a lot can be done to ensure good performance but the techy needs to know his stuff.
2. When I look at modern vehicles, some hi performers have a small red button that turns the machine into a monster. So clearly there is a map for economy and one for performance. When a chip is installed the mapping must then be done to favor one of these two settings. Over fueling is not necessarily a requirement but can be done to override factory safeguards that attempts to ensure engine life and reliability. IMHO a lot can be done to ensure good performance but the techy needs to know his stuff.
Hi gents, I have two thoughts about the issue: 1. Reading the posts it confirms an issue a friend of mine had; to make a long story short he took his vehicle in for remapping of the chip at a respected vendor in Boksburg but they were unsuccessful apparently because of low fuel pressure delivered by the pump. They wanted to replace it at great cost. Conclusion; the fuel delivery pressure is important. Any comments on this?
2. When I look at modern vehicles, some hi performers have a small red button that turns the machine into a monster. So clearly there is a map for economy and one for performance. When a chip is installed the mapping must then be done to favor one of these two settings. Over fueling is not necessarily a requirement but can be done to override factory safeguards that attempts to ensure engine life and reliability. IMHO a lot can be done to ensure good performance but the techy needs to know his stuff.
2. When I look at modern vehicles, some hi performers have a small red button that turns the machine into a monster. So clearly there is a map for economy and one for performance. When a chip is installed the mapping must then be done to favor one of these two settings. Over fueling is not necessarily a requirement but can be done to override factory safeguards that attempts to ensure engine life and reliability. IMHO a lot can be done to ensure good performance but the techy needs to know his stuff.