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Re: What have you done to your Pajero today?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:33 pm
by KurtG
Andrew, I'm interested in this seat well solution for my Gen4. How much are we looking at for this conversion and how is it done?

Re: What have you done to your Pajero today?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:32 pm
by andrew.ashton
gerbek1 wrote:Andrew, I'm interested in this seat well solution for my Gen4. How much are we looking at for this conversion and how is it done?
Kurt - this is how far I progressed:
1. Removed the liner for the 3rd row seat well.
2. Measured n times - making sure that there would be still space for a battery box adjacent to the tank.
3. Made a CAD drawing c/w baffles and nozzles (filler, a pair of breathers) (except need a correct dimension for a suitable in-tank transfer pump / filter / fuel level sender).
4. Got a quote for the aluminium plate, including laser cutting and CNC bending. (but not the bits of pipe for the nozzles and breathers).

Cost of aluminium supplied, cut and bent under R2.5k.

Would need to add to that the welding, odds and sods and an in-tank module.
I would let the tank sit on a layer of 5 / 6mm Neoprene - like the marine guys do (and I have allowed that clearance in the seat well).

I reckon a top class properly engineered job for under R5k.

Re: What have you done to your Pajero today?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:47 am
by RoelfleRoux
Best would be to all get together on the mountain and personally chat about these tanks with Coyd and Andrew.

Sent from my GT-I9305

Re: What have you done to your Pajero today?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:37 am
by andrew.ashton
RoelfleRoux wrote:Best would be to all get together on the mountain and personally chat about these tanks with Cloyd and Andrew.
+1

Re: What have you done to your Pajero today?

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:16 am
by KurtG
Removed the DPF, took about an hour and went for a short test drive, feels a bit better but really not sure as I didn't do a before and after test. The substrate didn't look too bad after 225,129km.

Re: What have you done to your Pajero today?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:17 am
by CATS
gerbek1 wrote:Removed the DPF, took about an hour and went for a short test drive, feels a bit better but really not sure as I didn't do a before and after test. The substrate didn't look too bad after 225,129km.
I didnt know the SA Pajero's came with a DPF? They were a cause for a lot of unhappy Pajero owners in Aus a while back. Are you sure it was DPF and not CAT that you removed?

CATS

Re: What have you done to your Pajero today?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:25 am
by KurtG
It could have been a CAT, CATs ;). I have no idea but that thing what was in there is not there anymore ;D. It's the one behind the turbo.

Re: What have you done to your Pajero today?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:47 am
by andrew.ashton
gerbek1 wrote:It could have been a CAT, CATs ;). I have no idea but that thing what was in there is not there anymore ;D. It's the one behind the turbo.
Now time to delete the EGR circuit.

Re: What have you done to your Pajero today?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:59 am
by andrew.ashton
While I was removing my old auxiliary fuel tank the other day I saw bits of shredded rubber somewhere near the base of the rear springs - wasn't sure if it was something to do with the air-helpers or not, so borrowed some axle stands and dropped the right rear lower control arm.

Findings:
1. I suspect the airbags were never fitted correctly (by original fitment centre or by fitment centre that subsequently did my EFS install). I will call Air Spring Supply Company tomorrow to get some tech advice - certainly does not look per their generic install manual. But this was not what I spotted.
2. The spring lower pads (heavy duty rubber cup that the lower end of each rear spring sits on) are shredded. I wonder what caused that or if it is just part of normal wear and tear? Anyone have experience of this either with OEM or aftermarket coils?

Anyway, seem to have caught this just in time before the spring base started to grind away the lower control arm.

The spring upper pads look 100%.

So now poor old Dusty sits on 3 wheels and an axle stand until I can source these spring lower pads. I hope they are available in RSA.

Re: What have you done to your Pajero today?

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:42 pm
by andrew.ashton
While I was sorting out my rear suspension (spring lower supports per the above post), I did some digging into what I really have in terms of upgraded rear suspension components.

BACKGROUND
Originally I had AirLift 1000 spring helpers installed inside the OEM springs. At the same time, IIRC, I fitted an aux diesel tank & drawer system.

Later, because I was always bottoming out when fully loaded, I had an EFS suspension upgrade installed by a different outfitter. Not sure of the specs at the front, but the rear springs are EFS part number MITS-103E. Their literature, which is hard to get to, shows this model as "constant 150kg" and 40mm lift. The next springs up are the MITS-130HDE for 300kg or MITS-130EHDE for 500kg. At that stage the installer recommended the 150kg - partly because of the trade off between everyday 1 driver, no passenger and then touring loaded to the hilt.

At that stage the original airlift bags were refitted. The installer said that would be OK.

However, when loaded, the vehicle sits nose-up, no matter what I do with the airhelpers, within their permitted pressure range.

PHONING ROUND TODAY
1. From EFS I got the above lowdown on the rating of the installed springs and what other options were available. They kindly offered to supply a new set of rear springs via a distributor, at a discounted price. But would not warrant the suspension if I did the install myself. Not that that worried me. I have been really happy with the performance of the EFS shocks and front suspension since installed.
2. From Air Spring Supply Company (ASSC) I got advice that the bags I have cannot compensate sufficiently when the vehicle has been lifted. They offered me replacement bags and spacers at a discounted price.

I considered getting some nylon spacers made to frig the length difference between the "wrong" bags that I have the right bags. But when I drew up the spacer, its length + the length of the existing topmount spacer nearly equals the bag length - a suboptimal solution.

So I have opted to go for the correct airhelper bags - they will be delivered tomorrow.

Mitsubishi Bryanston meanwhile will also have the replacement spring lower pads (MR418047) tomorrow, so then I can start to reassemble.