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How does an oil change improve performance?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:33 pm
by 4ePajero
SWAMBO's Merc C200 Kompressor was due for an oil service, and since the extended gaurantee had expired, I asked Marius (4ePikanini) to help me with the oil change.

I bought a GUD filter element and 7l of Delo400.

Marius did the hard work, I "supervised".

The (substantial) belly-plate had to be removed to get to the sump plug, and Marius fortunately had a oil filter wrench for his Jetta, which fitted the Merc's filter housing perfectly.

What was disgusting to see was the condition of the filter element. We came to the conclusion that it had not been changed for quite a while.
TIP: Ask to see the old parts when you have your engine serviced)

I expected the engine to run smoother with the Delo400, which it does, and considerably so.
What I did not expect was the increase in performance. It is definitely more responsive than before the oil change.
I can only think that it has something to do with the supercharges ("Kompressor"), which turns freely, now that it has decent oil in the sump.

Any ideas?

PS This experience again proved (to me IAC) that a FSH from a dealer / accredited workshop is no guarantee that your vehicle was serviced "properly"

Re: How does an oil change improve performance?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:45 pm
by 4ePikanini
I don't think it's the filter. I think it's the delo :twisted:

Truth be told that filter was disgusting - it looked worse than this one
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Re: How does an oil change improve performance?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:59 pm
by Scubadude
Changing the air filter - yes, most definite a performance improvement. Oil change? Unlikely from a tribology (big word for the study of intercating surfaces moving relative to one another) perspective. Unless the oil was really really old and contained a heck of a lot of grit and grime to the point of increased viscosity (big word for becoming thicker) and reduced lubricity (last big word, this one for the capacity to reduce friction).

Other than this feeble attempt at an engineering explanation, you'll have to turn to another set of textbooks for another set of big words... pshycology maybe? :)

EDIT ....

Googling on the way home (as passenger, not driver) I found this article ... http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Rea ... onsumption ... much better explanation than mine and very interesting reading. Looks like you can put away those pshycology books (for now :) ) ...

Re: How does an oil change improve performance?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:32 pm
by 4ePajero
Francois,

I fully agree with you.
That's exactly why I started this thread. It just does not make sense at all, and I'm convinced that I am not imagining things!

Re: How does an oil change improve performance?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:46 pm
by Scubadude
4ePajero wrote:... I'm convinced that I am not imagining things!
Well, you're not ...
When a lubricant degrades, it forms reaction products that become insoluble and corrosive. So too, the original properties of lubricity and dispersancy can become impaired as the lubricant ages and additives deplete. Much has been published about the risks associated with overextended oil drains and the buildup of carbon insolubles from combustion blow-by.

However, surprisingly little has been said about the impact of fine abrasives in a lube oil as it relates to fuel economy over the engine’s life. One can imagine numerous scenarios in which solid abrasives suspended in the oil could diminish optimum energy performance. Below is a list of several scenarios:

•Antiwear Additive Depletion. High soot load of crankcase lubricants has been reported to impair the performance of ZDDP antiwear additives. Some researchers believe that soot and dust particles exhibit polar absorbencies, and as such, can tie-up the AW additive and diminish its ability to control friction in boundary contacts (cam nose, ring/ liner, etc.).
•Combustion Efficiency Losses. Sooner or later, wear from abrasive particles and deposits from carbon and oxide insolubles will interfere with efficient combustion in an engine. Valve train wear (cams, valve guides, etc.) can impact timing and valve movement. Wear of rings, pistons and liners influences volumetric compression efficiency and combustion blow-by resulting in power loss. As has been previously reported in this magazine, particle-induced wear is greatest when the particle sizes are in the same range as the oil film thickness (Figure 2). For diesel and gasoline engines, there are a surprising number of laboratory and field studies that report the need to control particles below ten microns. One such study by GM concluded that, “controlling particles in the 3 to 10 micron range had the greatest impact on wear rates and that engine wear rates correlated directly to the dust concentration levels in the sump.”1
•Frictional Losses. When hard clear- ance-size particles disrupt oil films, including boundary chemical films, increased friction and wear will occur. One researcher reports that 40 to 50 percent of the friction losses of an engine are attributable to the ring/cylinder contacts, with two-thirds of the loss assigned to the upper compression ring.2 It has been documented that there is an extremely high level of sensitivity at the ring-to-cylinder zone of the engine to both oil- and air-borne contaminants. Hence, abrasive wear of the ring/cylinder area of the engine translates directly to increased friction, blow-by, compression losses and reduced fuel economy.
•Viscosity Churning Losses. Wear particles contribute to oxidative thickening of aged oil. High soot load and/or lack of soot dispersancy can also have a large impact on oil viscosity increases. Viscosity-related internal fluid friction not only increases fuel consumption but also generates more heat that can lead to premature degradation of additives and base oil oxidation.
•Stiction Losses. Deposits in the combustion chamber and valve area can lead to restriction movements in rings and valve control. When hard particle contamination agglomerates with soot and sludge to form adherent deposits between valves and guides, a tenacious interference, called stiction, results. Stiction causes power loss. It causes the timing of the port openings and closings to vary, leading to incomplete combustion and risk of backfiring. Advanced phases of this problem can lead to a burned valve seat.2

Re: How does an oil change improve performance?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:18 pm
by 4ePikanini
could the easier flow through the oil filter have an impact?

Re: How does an oil change improve performance?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:02 pm
by Cas
Just out of interest, would a synthetic oil not yield better results than delo, or is delo also synthetic?

Re: How does an oil change improve performance?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:25 pm
by HBannink
Decent oil has strange influences on engines, the day I switched over to Edge on the pajero funny things start to happen.
The first start was a bit concerning as she revved up to about 2300 and stayed there, my first reaction was to check the oil pres. gauge and when that gave me a higher reading than normal I was convinced that there was something terribly wrong and shut down the engine. I expected to find a pool of oil under the pajie but nothing and after checking everything three times and putting in another 500ml of oil just in case , I restarted with the same result just this time the well known valve train rattle disappeared as well. Seeing as I do an oil change on a warm engine it could not be on warm up cycle and the high revs took about a week to come down to normal levels. The oil service was done for a trip to Kruger the next day and on that trip I got an average of 7.8 km/l compared to my normal 7.2 - 7.6 with noticeable increase in power.
It could only be the oil, why? I don't know probably a smoother or finer oil and the 10-60 viscosity must have something to do with the higher oil pressure.
As for the noisy valves my only theory is that the extra bit of oil in the sump prevents air or foam from being pushed through the system. If my valves start rattling I know it is time to top the oil.

Judging by these experiences it seems as if dello also falls in the category of decent oil :twisted:

Re: How does an oil change improve performance?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:52 am
by 4ePajero
After a lot of thinking (yes, I sometimes do) I want to add another angle.

Could it be the hydraulic lifters now working properly? With the rubbish which was in the sump, the lifters could have been performing below par?

Marius,
I don't think the oil filter would make a performance difference. The oil pump can't be rated at more than 200W max. (my guess only). It will have a by-pass valve as well.

Francois,
I hear what you say, but what you quoted there seems to be permanent damage, which would not be rectified by a oil change, would it?
Some of the things you post could add up to a few Watt, though. The improvement was noticeable, and I think I would not notice a 1-2% increase.

Delo400 is dyno-blood (mineral), not synthetic.
In our moderate climate, I am not convinced that the normal family vehicle requires synthetic oil. I have still to be convinced that synthetic is better than a top quality mineral, except for extreme use, such as racing engines.
Most engines running on synthetic usually sound like Briggs & Stratton (Breek & Stukkend) lawn mower engines, especially when cold.

Re: How does an oil change improve performance?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:21 am
by 4ePikanini
4ePajero wrote:
Marius,
I don't think the oil filter would make a performance difference. The oil pump can't be rated at more than 200W max. (my guess only). It will have a by-pass valve as well.
I was thinking more in the lines of the bypass mechanism. I'm not sure how the MB oil system works but if higher pressure gets to the journals the friction on moving parts will be lower.
:idea: