My 2007 DID had it, the 2009 had it and now at 23000km, my 2010 with the new engine is taking all the pleasure out of owning a Pajero. The whistling/sucking noise is unacceptable on a vehicle of this level and price price.
Worst of all, when Mercedes Benz were responsible for Pajero, their technical reps authorised turbo and EGR valve replacements, all to no avail, Eventually, I was simply advised, it is normal, it operates with this noise. If you do not like it, contact the ombudsman for the motor industry.
Now that Mc Carthy's have assumed responsibilty for Pajero in South Africa, a different attitude prevails and they have undertaken to investigate with Japan.
The big question is, has anyone out there experienced or is experincing a similar problem and does anyone know of a fix without affecting the reliabilty of the vehicle.?
In Australia I have heard of owners blocking off the EGR valve but, it may just be coincidental, cylinder heads have been found to crack.
Any ideas....?
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either have it cleaned (egr pipes, cooler, intake manifold and valve)
or
clean the intake manifold and delete the egr system - chipping may be necessary to avoid CEL.
or
clean the egr pipes, cooler, intake manifold and egr valve and install a catch can.
the noise is probably due to gunk build up over time which is unavoidable unless you delete the egr system or install a catch can system.
The gunk forms when the recycled exhaust gasses mixes with the crank case vent oil vapours and builds up gunk in the intake system and egr valve system.
have it done as the egr can really cause
or
clean the intake manifold and delete the egr system - chipping may be necessary to avoid CEL.
or
clean the egr pipes, cooler, intake manifold and egr valve and install a catch can.
the noise is probably due to gunk build up over time which is unavoidable unless you delete the egr system or install a catch can system.
The gunk forms when the recycled exhaust gasses mixes with the crank case vent oil vapours and builds up gunk in the intake system and egr valve system.
have it done as the egr can really cause
Last edited by 4ePikanini on Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Thanks for the input. What surprises me though, if the solution appears to be a simple one, why, under warranty, have the agents/manufactures replaced so many turbos and EGR valves and why is it that the (supposed to be trained factory reps) appear to have such a limited diagnostic knowledge and ability.
Why and what part of your replying comments had to be "CENSORED:?
Is one allowed to exchange telephone contact nos.?
Thanks again.
Why and what part of your replying comments had to be "CENSORED:?
Is one allowed to exchange telephone contact nos.?
Thanks again.
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agents aren't allowed to mess with factory setups.
EGR is required for emissions and work well when new but emission regulations aren't interested in the longevity of the car (which gets you to buy more cars inducing a larger carbon footprint but that's another discussion
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Just one word was censored by myself. The egr can really cause poo is what I wanted to say
Lately dealers have technicians trained to read error codes and replace parts. The days of knowledgeable mechanics in dealerships that sometimes fixes stuff with some wd40 and a hammer is looooong gone.
The good ones that diagnose based on experience and hands on knowledge are few and far between. One of them that has made a name here is Freek Jnr and Freek Snr from Mitspro Centurion. Lots of good have been said about them on the forum.
EGR is required for emissions and work well when new but emission regulations aren't interested in the longevity of the car (which gets you to buy more cars inducing a larger carbon footprint but that's another discussion
)Just one word was censored by myself. The egr can really cause poo is what I wanted to say
Lately dealers have technicians trained to read error codes and replace parts. The days of knowledgeable mechanics in dealerships that sometimes fixes stuff with some wd40 and a hammer is looooong gone.
The good ones that diagnose based on experience and hands on knowledge are few and far between. One of them that has made a name here is Freek Jnr and Freek Snr from Mitspro Centurion. Lots of good have been said about them on the forum.
You certainly may, or communicate via PM (Private Messages)Alex Hegland wrote:Is one allowed to exchange telephone contact nos.?
This defeats the object of the forum, though.
If the discussions are posted here, we all learn from it.
PS I think Marius "self-censored" his post.
(I think the word he censored starts with a "sh..." or possible a "k..."
)Gerhard Fourie
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AlexAlex Hegland wrote:My 2007 DID had it, the 2009 had it and now at 23000km, my 2010 with the new engine is taking all the pleasure out of owning a Pajero. The whistling/sucking noise is unacceptable on a vehicle of this level and price price.
Firstly welcome here.
Unlike 4EPikanin I am still a believer in the good of all, and we differ on this point every now and again in good jest regarding the EGR
.My Pajero EGR is still as from the factory standard and standing on just over 250 000km has never given me any noises. How sure are you that the whistling/sucking that you describe is linked to the EGR? I have a nice whistling turbo when used hard and had a chirpy bird noise once when the Brake booster accumulator failed but never experienced whistling/sucking noises except when my boys are sleeping in the back on a quiet back road and drinking one of their bottles Maybe the noise is linked to something else. Howe did you come about the conclusion that it is EGR linked?
CATS
2009 Pajero 3.2 DiDc Lwb GLS (Gen4) - Casper (Starting to grow on me)
2001 Pajero 3.2 DiD Lwb GLS Manual (Gen3) - Snoopy (SOLD but not forgotten)
2008 Pajero 3.2 DiDc Lwb GLS Auto (Gen4) - Silvester (SOLD)
2001 Pajero 3.2 DiD Lwb GLS Manual (Gen3) - Snoopy (SOLD but not forgotten)
2008 Pajero 3.2 DiDc Lwb GLS Auto (Gen4) - Silvester (SOLD)
Hello Cats and you other guys who have commented.
You see, Cats, this whole saga is a long story going back over some time, as you will understand and like I originally said I have been a Pajero fan for years. My 2005 (blister fender) spoilt me I think and with hind sight, maybe I should have kept it. This model was the epitome of what made Pajero a winner. Since then, my error I know, I have been trying to upgrade to new models and run away from the things that I did'nt like. but, with devastating results and lots of expense. Instead of getting better with technological advancements, I am not so sure that this has been the case.
The onset of the "noise" was with the 2007 model, According to the dealer and factory people who tested and diagnosed etc, it was in their general terms " a turbo noise" - "replace the turbo and EGR valve" (under warranty).It was not long when the noise was back and I decided to get rid of the problem. Come the 2009 model - no noise up to +- 10000kms and then it started, the same result. This time however, there was an added dimension and an underpowered engine which gave me a wonderful excuse to get rid of the thing. 2010 model with the new engine - at last, heaven - no noise. On a trip back from the west coast at 17000kms the dreaded noise started again. We started all over again, frustrated dealers trying to solve a problem to which they have no solution. More factory reps and more turbos and EGR valves.
Recently, with McCarthy assuming responsibility for the distribution of Pajero in SA, a sincere desire to solve and get to the bottom of the problem has been embarked upon.
What I did find though, Cats, was that when I disconnected the plug on the EGR, the noise went away and with this information passed on to Japan by McCarthy's, we will hopefully find a solution.
Marius, I am not in the habit of shooting at feet but was not sure of how this system worked, I assumed that possibly, the censorship may have been imposed by someone not wanting to allow negative comments. It was plain that an obvious word had been dropped off. Having had first hand experience with manufacturers and their technical people who do not always play it down the line, I was naturally suspicious that something had been censored.
Cheers
You see, Cats, this whole saga is a long story going back over some time, as you will understand and like I originally said I have been a Pajero fan for years. My 2005 (blister fender) spoilt me I think and with hind sight, maybe I should have kept it. This model was the epitome of what made Pajero a winner. Since then, my error I know, I have been trying to upgrade to new models and run away from the things that I did'nt like. but, with devastating results and lots of expense. Instead of getting better with technological advancements, I am not so sure that this has been the case.
The onset of the "noise" was with the 2007 model, According to the dealer and factory people who tested and diagnosed etc, it was in their general terms " a turbo noise" - "replace the turbo and EGR valve" (under warranty).It was not long when the noise was back and I decided to get rid of the problem. Come the 2009 model - no noise up to +- 10000kms and then it started, the same result. This time however, there was an added dimension and an underpowered engine which gave me a wonderful excuse to get rid of the thing. 2010 model with the new engine - at last, heaven - no noise. On a trip back from the west coast at 17000kms the dreaded noise started again. We started all over again, frustrated dealers trying to solve a problem to which they have no solution. More factory reps and more turbos and EGR valves.
Recently, with McCarthy assuming responsibility for the distribution of Pajero in SA, a sincere desire to solve and get to the bottom of the problem has been embarked upon.
What I did find though, Cats, was that when I disconnected the plug on the EGR, the noise went away and with this information passed on to Japan by McCarthy's, we will hopefully find a solution.
Marius, I am not in the habit of shooting at feet but was not sure of how this system worked, I assumed that possibly, the censorship may have been imposed by someone not wanting to allow negative comments. It was plain that an obvious word had been dropped off. Having had first hand experience with manufacturers and their technical people who do not always play it down the line, I was naturally suspicious that something had been censored.
Cheers
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Alex
I can't comment on your issue but as owner of this forum i can assure we do not censor anything unless it is in violation of the terms of service. Criticism levelled against Mitsubishi and/or the dealers is not included in the TOS. We remain fiercely independent and will not kowtow to anyone. We do however reserve the right to remove content that we deem to be high on emotion and low on fact and objectivity.
Having said that, back to your issue, hoping you get it sorted.
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I can't comment on your issue but as owner of this forum i can assure we do not censor anything unless it is in violation of the terms of service. Criticism levelled against Mitsubishi and/or the dealers is not included in the TOS. We remain fiercely independent and will not kowtow to anyone. We do however reserve the right to remove content that we deem to be high on emotion and low on fact and objectivity.
Having said that, back to your issue, hoping you get it sorted.
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You could have an ear which is very sensitive to a specific frequency? 
If it is the EGR, which you seem to think it is, disable it. There are many thousands of Di-D engines running without EGR.
(Mine does not even have any of the EGR hardware).
If it is the EGR, which you seem to think it is, disable it. There are many thousands of Di-D engines running without EGR.
(Mine does not even have any of the EGR hardware).
Gerhard Fourie
If you want to shoot somebody, make sure you aim at his head, not your own foot.
Me
If you want to shoot somebody, make sure you aim at his head, not your own foot.
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I'd love/hate to see what your intake manifold looks like....CATS wrote:.My Pajero EGR is still as from the factory standard and standing on just over 250 000km has never given me any noises.
