Pajero Owners Club of South Africa

I have a 2005 GLX diesel which , according to general opinion, and agents, can run on 500 ppm Diesel

Will the engine last longer if I only use 50 ppm? appently some of the diesel pump/engine components are manufactured from a differant type of material and will therefore not be affected by the sulfer which means either of the 2 will be fine and i can therefore use the cheapest?

Would/should there be a consumption differance?

JDV,
My 2006 DiD GLS preferred the 500ppm stuff. The 50ppm diesel resulted in longer cranking when starting the engine. The new commonrail DiD motors should not be run on 500ppm though.
Adding of 2-stroke oil with the diesel at 1:200, is also recommended by many clever guys.
Roelf

Hi - I've had my 2007 GLX DID-c for 5 months now - both the dealer I bought from (Midrand) and the one I serviced the vehicle at (East Rand) said 500ppm was fine - and that's what I've been using!

Any other DID-c motors using 500ppm or am I looking at some future problems

Cheers
Tom

I am by no means an engineer of any source, but since driving diesel and asking around alot I have come to the following conclusion:

50ppm is always the better fuel to use (advise given by Westrand [Bosch] Diesel) - they can see longer live from injectors, pump etc.

I wil NEVER add 2-stroke oil to any vehicle. 2-stroke oil to diesel is supposed to lubricate the pump and injectors - but ALL diesel has lubrication aid. The idea is that the 50ppm has less sulphur (which is one of the main lubricants) so other lubrication needs to be added - this has been done in the diesel using other chemicals.

2-Stroke oil's particles is much bigger and my believe is that it will rather block the injectors and pump rather than lubricate it (just think how small the injector nozzle is).

Manufacturers will not allow diesel to be made if it is not suitable for the parts they use.
(read on 4x4community of Fortuner and injector problems).

I stick to 50ppm as far as possible. My poor friend has to sell his Jaguar due to the fact that the town he's moving to does not stock 50ppm and Jaguar will not honor his warrantee if he uses 500ppm.

On the Pajero's I don't think its that serious - just remember that the sulphur "destroys" you engine oil - so the higher the ppm the more you would need to service!

my 2c

llec999 wrote:I wil NEVER add 2-stroke oil to any vehicle. 2-stroke oil to diesel is supposed to lubricate the pump and injectors - but ALL diesel has lubrication aid. The idea is that the 50ppm has less sulphur (which is one of the main lubricants) so other lubrication needs to be added - this has been done in the diesel using other chemicals.

2-Stroke oil's particles is much bigger and my believe is that it will rather block the injectors and pump rather than lubricate it (just think how small the injector nozzle is).

This couldn't have been summarized better - thanks ....but the 2-stroke story has almost become a religious discussion....

My Pajero didn't see any 2-stroke oil, just 50ppm whenever available and that's it.

llec999 wrote: I wil NEVER add 2-stroke oil to any vehicle. 2-stroke oil to diesel is supposed to lubricate the pump and injectors - but ALL diesel has lubrication aid. The idea is that the 50ppm has less sulphur (which is one of the main lubricants) so other lubrication needs to be added - this has been done in the diesel using other chemicals.

(my bold & underline)

I am one of the originals proponents of adding 2-stroke oil to both petrol and diesel engines.

The reason I promote it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LUBRICITY!

2-stroke oil is a low ash oil, which has (amongst other) the quality: it burns cleaner than diesel and will in fact remove carbon build-up, caused by the burning of other oils (such as diesel).

Don't do it just because I have been doing it for 30+ years!

4ePajero,
how much and what type of 2 stroke do you add?

JDV wrote:4ePajero,
how much and what type of 2 stroke do you add?

I use any of the popular brands (BP, Caltex, Engen, Shell) mineral 2-stroke @ 1 : 200 mix.

Thanks