Andre,
1)The SC (which will react to wheel speed and steering angle and lateral G-forces) should be de-activeted in conditions that will justify a locked rear diff.
2)The standard Pajero D/L only operates in low range - when the SC is automatically de-activated in any case.
3)A locked rear diff ensures that the wheels turn at the same speed, so the traction control will be quite happy to sit idle and do nothing. But should a front wheel decide to spin, then the T/C will jump in and help (not hinder).
My question is: do you install the D/L into the existing rear diff? I have no doubt that the elctronics of the T/C and S/C will be quite happy with a difflock, I'm just curious about the diff itself.
Roelf
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Thanx Roelf
I was reading up on some Ausie forums, this should work like a charm.
I can get the complete rear diff from another Gen 3 that has the diff lock. So I will just be replacing mine with that one and then adding all the bits to make her work..
Think she might just be unstoppable then
I was reading up on some Ausie forums, this should work like a charm.
I can get the complete rear diff from another Gen 3 that has the diff lock. So I will just be replacing mine with that one and then adding all the bits to make her work..
Think she might just be unstoppable then
Andre,
Unstoppable is the word.
Just make sure the ratios are identical.
Keep us posted!
Unstoppable is the word.
Just make sure the ratios are identical.
Keep us posted!
If I may revive this thread:
Has anybody actually fitted one of these lockers to their T/C enabled Pajeros?
Has anybody actually fitted one of these lockers to their T/C enabled Pajeros?
I belive cloyd has - im sure there is a thread where he's talked about it
Karl
Masker,
I believe you are right and I went off searching for that thread, when I tripped over this thread.
I managed to get myself in a knot on the mountain this weekend and think a difflock could have made a difference. What I do know is the Pajero brakes work perfectly when reversing down a wet, slippery, rutted slope. So none of those scary stories of the ABS causing a runaway under those conditions. I was forced to take the better line (what a sissy thing to do
) to get up the slope at the second attempt.
Roelf
I believe you are right and I went off searching for that thread, when I tripped over this thread.
I managed to get myself in a knot on the mountain this weekend and think a difflock could have made a difference. What I do know is the Pajero brakes work perfectly when reversing down a wet, slippery, rutted slope. So none of those scary stories of the ABS causing a runaway under those conditions. I was forced to take the better line (what a sissy thing to do
) to get up the slope at the second attempt. Roelf
Hi friends,
Yes, I have fitted a Pajero lock diff to my traction control Pajero and it works like a charm.
My system (the lock-up) has it's own switch with the result that I can, when needed, select diff-lock. It works in both low and high range and is totally under my control. It does not affect T/C except that three wheels will always have traction before the T/C will come in - that is with the diff-lock selected. I think it is a more useable set-up than the standard Pajero set-up. In the normal Pajero diff-lock can only be activated when in 4LlC.
Unfortunately, I could not get a lockable diff with the same ratio as in my Pajero with the result that I had to change both the front and rear diffs. Changing both diffs is an easy Saterday job and that includes fitting the power lead, the airpump and switch. A single diff and assessories will be a moning's job. The cost ±R4500,00 on an exchange basis.
Cloyd.
Yes, I have fitted a Pajero lock diff to my traction control Pajero and it works like a charm.
My system (the lock-up) has it's own switch with the result that I can, when needed, select diff-lock. It works in both low and high range and is totally under my control. It does not affect T/C except that three wheels will always have traction before the T/C will come in - that is with the diff-lock selected. I think it is a more useable set-up than the standard Pajero set-up. In the normal Pajero diff-lock can only be activated when in 4LlC.
Unfortunately, I could not get a lockable diff with the same ratio as in my Pajero with the result that I had to change both the front and rear diffs. Changing both diffs is an easy Saterday job and that includes fitting the power lead, the airpump and switch. A single diff and assessories will be a moning's job. The cost ±R4500,00 on an exchange basis.
Cloyd.
Hey RoelfRoelfleRoux wrote:What I do know is the Pajero brakes work perfectly when reversing down a wet, slippery, rutted slope. So none of those scary stories of the ABS causing a runaway under those conditions. I was forced to take the better line (what a sissy thing to do
Roelf
What do u mean by reversing down a slippery slope?
Do u mean by coming down the slope by putting in reverse gear? I never tried that! Does it helps getting vehicle in control when the ABS doesn't help?
Josef, NO 
I mean when you go up a slope and can't make it out the top. You need to stop and engage reverse and then reverse back down the slope. The fact that you couldn't make it out the top, means it is a steep, slippery, impossible type track. Some 4x4 vehicles with ABS can run into serious trouble when this happens. There are well documented cases of runaway 4x4's back down the slope. Basically the ABS senses wheels locking-up and then the brake on that wheel releases (pushes back against the pedal). This system gets out of control and basically the pedal goes rock hard under foot as it prevents the wheels from braking. The Pajero EBAC system prevents this from happening and I could reverse under resonable control. The track was so rutted that the PDC kept buzzing away as it sensed obstacles behind the car.
I mean when you go up a slope and can't make it out the top. You need to stop and engage reverse and then reverse back down the slope. The fact that you couldn't make it out the top, means it is a steep, slippery, impossible type track. Some 4x4 vehicles with ABS can run into serious trouble when this happens. There are well documented cases of runaway 4x4's back down the slope. Basically the ABS senses wheels locking-up and then the brake on that wheel releases (pushes back against the pedal). This system gets out of control and basically the pedal goes rock hard under foot as it prevents the wheels from braking. The Pajero EBAC system prevents this from happening and I could reverse under resonable control. The track was so rutted that the PDC kept buzzing away as it sensed obstacles behind the car.
Cloyd,
I trust you are keeping well. Thanks for finding this thread and helping us out.
Now for some follow-up questions:
1) Where did you get those diffs? New from a dealer or from a scrapyard (terrible word for a Pajero part, but it is what it is )? You mention "exchange", so I suppose it isn't from a dealer.
2) From which Pajero are they? I imagine the DiD would be too long in the gearing, so I guess it is from an early Gen3 3.5V6.
3) Do you now run slightely lower gearing and is that why the bigger tyres work so well on your car?
I'm really pretty serious about this difflock option, because I believe Mitsu SA is going to sort my dash out and then this beast can live with me into retirement and beyond (whatever comes after retirement
.
Cheers
Roelf
I trust you are keeping well. Thanks for finding this thread and helping us out.
Now for some follow-up questions:
1) Where did you get those diffs? New from a dealer or from a scrapyard (terrible word for a Pajero part, but it is what it is
)? You mention "exchange", so I suppose it isn't from a dealer.2) From which Pajero are they? I imagine the DiD would be too long in the gearing, so I guess it is from an early Gen3 3.5V6.
3) Do you now run slightely lower gearing and is that why the bigger tyres work so well on your car?
I'm really pretty serious about this difflock option, because I believe Mitsu SA is going to sort my dash out and then this beast can live with me into retirement and beyond (whatever comes after retirement
. Cheers
Roelf