[SimonB]

I thought the post was about steep dunes

[RoelfleRoux]

Simon,
The point is :
There is a dune and there is hardly any run-up to it.
The dune is steep enough to be the “chopping block” for the Port Nolloth locals.
I was stranded in the Port some three years ago, (can you believe, due to rain in the Richterveld) and had to kill a few days in the Port.
I asked some locals about the “what and where” while I wait for the OK from Richtersveld.
The short version is they took us for sundowners on the beach and when we got there the challenge was laid in front of me. I accepted, they couldn’t make it and I did – autobox DiD with T/C and no difflock.

A stock standard Pajero may not be at the top of the pile, but I think it is closer to the top than many people believe (including some Pajero owners).
Roelf

[AndreBenson]

The 3.8 V6 is magic!!!! you just need to get the right amount of momentum and she pulls through. If I can just stop the TC from overheating so quickly I'm sure she will be fine....

[Gerrit Loubser]

Andre, presumably the TC that you refer to that overheats is the traction control and not the torque converter?


If it is traction control at least it is not mission critical. Could you describe the situations under which the TC overheated? What Super Select mode was selected at the time?

[AndreBenson]

Hi G

Yes the traction control and 4HLlc, I was climbing a steep sandy hill at chimes, the about 3/4 up the Pajero starts beeping crazy and then as this has happened before I pushed her just a little more to get to the top, but then I saw the Heat gage go up and the beeping turned to a constant beeeeeeeep. Reversed and turned the heat up just to get some heat away from the engine and let her stand for a little while.

She cooled down and I tried again.

[Bigwill]

Andre, presumably the TC that you refer to that overheats is the traction control and not the torque converter?

Yes it is in fact the braking system that overheats due to excessive traction assistance.

Quote from page 5-46 of the owners manual

If the temperature in the braking system increases excessively due to continuous brake control on a slippery road surface, a warning buzzer will sound intermittently to warn the driver. If driving continues in spite of the buzzer and the temperature in the braking system increases further, the TC indicator lamp will illuminate, the warning buzzer will sound continuously for approximately 3 seconds, and active traction control system operation will be suspended to protect the braking system.

This is quite a bother at times. I often happens when you push for the last few meters on severely poor surfaces. I hate this. That is why difflock is preferred. TC is fine while its there but it can leave you in trouble.

[RoelfleRoux]

I have no doubt that difflock is the better option if you plan on doing serious challanges.

I use my car for getting to nice, quiet and remote places and am EXTREMELY happy and satisfied with it's ability.

We crossed the Namib desert in a 2000 DiD GLS LWB manual. It was equipped with D/L, but I never even bothered to touch that button. There wasn't a single dune that I had to take a second bite at.

If I were to cross the Namib with my current car with T/C and no D/L, then I will most probably pull the ABS plug as advised by other Pajero owners.

[KaiV]

I'm back

Well, in a situation like that, I would not do the brake or poping into D thing. All you will achieve is stress on transmission and probably only dig you in.

I would choose 4HLc with rear diff lock (if you have) and traction contol off (if you can)
Then, go. Go as fast as possible WITHOUT spinning tyres. Once you have some momentum gun it with all she'll give you

Competions like that I actually havent taken part in, though played in smilar stuations. Without momentum in sand you might aswell not try.

[LowRange]

I had a similar situation this weekend.

Par a little bit of momentum. the auto box was great, before the engine lost too many refs it would drop a gear weather it was in trip-tronic or not. i didn't make it up the sand, but got further than a jeep rubicon and a 3.3 Nissan.

What I did find was how happily the engine revved at 5000rpm going up the sand. What I did not enjoy was my TC screaming at me 75% up and I could see the engine temp picking up.

Tried it in 4H 4HLc and 4LLc. Fynny enough 4HLc got me half way up switched to 4LLc and it got me up another 50% or so. Then she just bogged down in the sand.

What can one do to stop that TC from overheating so quickly....

Sit dit af.........sit dit af!

Pull the plug! (https://www.pajeroclub.co.za/forum/view ... f=25&t=352)

Trust me...........it works.

[SimonB]

Go as fast as possible WITHOUT spinning tyres. Once you have some momentum gun it with all she'll give you

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without momentum in sand you might aswell not try.

Hmmm One thing I have learned in sand - perhaps it is because I drive a petrol manual... fast as possible is worse than too slow..