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Re: Anti roll bar on rear suspension

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:19 pm
by 4ePajero
Gerrit Loubser wrote:I have an unproven theory about the Tuna's woes. I don't believe it is necessarily related to the fact that it has no anti-roll bar, but rather is the result of poor rear axle location due to the need for soft location bushes in order to have rear axle flex, given the suspension design selected (the vertical load is transferred to the rear coils via the lower trailing arms and not directly via the axle housing).
I fully agree !, and stated this on the 'other' forum when the 'Tuna problem started getting exposure.
I call it 'geometry steer', which is similar to 'bump-steer'.
I challenged someone to have racing car spec Vescoflex bushed made and installed, but nobody took me seriously.

Re: Anti roll bar on rear suspension

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:15 am
by Cobvs
Thanx guys for all the comments. I did a trip to JB and back with them loose and could not feel to much difference. I suppose it will not make such a difference in normal tar driving conditions. Needless to say I will not leave the anti rol bar uncoupled. It will be great to have the quick disconnects when you do venture off road and be able to have a bit more flex. Wonder if one can't get thicker bolts at the point where it attaches to the frame and apply the same sort of disconnect there with a pin through the bolt. :roll: question is if it will hold in a more extreme situation and how much pressure is applied on that point?

Re: Anti roll bar on rear suspension

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:27 pm
by Mcnoogle
Hey Simon,

What are those holes on X & Y axis of the top and bottom bushes for (where the anti roll bars fit in)?

I see they have no thread in them, they wouldn't by any chance be there for welding points?

Re: Anti roll bar on rear suspension

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:37 pm
by SimonB
Mcnoogle wrote:Hey Simon,

What are those holes on X & Y axis of the top and bottom bushes for (where the anti roll bars fit in)?

I see they have no thread in them, they wouldn't by any chance be there for welding points?
And you'd be right... they are also sealed and greasable

Re: Anti roll bar on rear suspension

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:44 pm
by Mcnoogle
I dont suppose you have a pick of one 'disconnected',

and / an explanation on the 'greasable' bit?

Re: Anti roll bar on rear suspension

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:43 am
by arnijr
SimonB wrote:
RoelfleRoux wrote:Simon,
That is rather clever.
Would that be front and rear?
Are they in the process of being made or fitted already?
Would that be Gen 2 or Gen 3 as well?
Roelf
I can't say too much but there are manufacturing license discussions on the go with the crowd in Europe that invented them. For both front and rear

They look something like this, and require the sway bar to be cut in half.
Those are very interesting. I've seen a few arrangements where the sway bar is disconnected where it bolts to the frame, but this one looks like it'll go in the middle of the sway bar and effectively cut it in half when disconnected. Thus the grease nipple is necessary since there will be rotation inside the disconnect, when disconnected, right?

Now, as I understand it there are several different diameters of anti sway bars, even within the same model. Will this fit some range of diameters?