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Re: Pajero gets its first work out. chloorkop 23 08 09
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:18 am
by Jaco Vosloo
Even easier way is to check if it has a big sticker on the diff that says "use LSD oil only".
I still prefer a nice burnout!
Re: Pajero gets its first work out. chloorkop 23 08 09
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:32 am
by SimonB
Jaco Vosloo wrote:Even easier way is to check if it has a big sticker on the diff that says "use LSD oil only".
I still prefer a nice burnout!
Well that's pretty obvious innit

Re: Pajero gets its first work out. chloorkop 23 08 09
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:38 am
by TRay
Just out of curiousity sake, I have the gen 2.5 with a diff lock at the rear. I'm assuming that it is simply a diff that can lock.
Can one have a LSD that can lock like a diff lock?
Re: Pajero gets its first work out. chloorkop 23 08 09
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:45 am
by radpaj
I also wasnt sure if i had the LSD as I did not have the sticker on the diff so I did the axle jacking and turned one wheel and ALAS the other wheel turned in the opp direction so no LSD

which was a bummer as i have grown used to a rear diff lock on my previous colt rodeo. I am now thinking it will be easier/cheaper to try and increase axle articulation as apossed to fitting a rear diff locker, such as larger tyres, removal of antiroll bars, better shocks. springs etc well I guess if you do all of this at once a diff locker will be cheaper

I think the trick is to keep at least three wheels firmly on the ground if you dont have the LSD and as Simon says you need to pick your lines carefully and you will end up becoming a more skilled 4x4er because of this
Re: Pajero gets its first work out. chloorkop 23 08 09
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:42 pm
by steve
Bummer !!
i just did the turning the wheel routine and found out that my pajero is indeed not fitted with a lsd.
i am quite shocked, so this means that i now have to become a far better driver than everyone else !!
i find this strange after seeing many you tube videos of what this little pajero can do, i guess driver skill does really count far more than the vehicle itself.
Re: Pajero gets its first work out. chloorkop 23 08 09
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:07 pm
by radpaj
You will still be able to do a lot with your Paj i recon, just because it does not have the lsd it does not mean you cant peform well, just got to take the easier path if possible. look at the LR defender it does not have a lsd or a rear diff lock but it gets to most places if you know what you doing because it has good axle articulation which keeps its wheels on the ground.
Re: Pajero gets its first work out. chloorkop 23 08 09
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:24 am
by Jaco Vosloo
Yip
That is why me and so many other people like "vaja123" have gone through the exercice of fitting diflock to our Pajeros.
Vaja123 fitted a centre portion of a blister fender and did a very nice write up for it on this forum.
This weekend I fitted a different rear axle (Diff) to mine. The diff was from a LWB from which I removed the LSD centerportion, and fitted a lock diff centerportion. The reason why did not fit the lockdiff centerportion to my current diff is because the amount of holes differ SWB has got 10 and the LWB has got 12. Then I also discovered that the side shafts of the LWB is thicker. I also had to shorten the left side shaft by 16mm to fit on the difflock centerportion. The companion flange connecting the diff to the propshaft also differs in two ways, the splines for the SWB are smaller than for the LWB and the holes for the propshaft is on a different PCD.
All and all it is not such a big job and if I had to to it again I could probably finish it in a day.
I think the way "Vaya123" did it is the easier way if you can get your hands on one of this very rare blister fender SWB diffs.
Re: Pajero gets its first work out. chloorkop 23 08 09
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:02 pm
by Gerrit Loubser
TRay wrote:Can one have a LSD that can lock like a diff lock?
Yes. The Gen 3s with a rear diff lock actually have a Torsen diff in the rear that can also be locked. The Torsen diff is a gear-type limited slip diff.
Another way to realise a lockable LSD is to use some mechanical means of modulating the pressure on the friction plates of a friction-type LSD. In the center and rear differentials of the Disco 3, Land Rover have used a worm gear driven cam system to achieve this. These Disco 3 diffs can vary smoothly from being open through being LSDs to being fully locked, all under electronic control.
Re: Pajero gets its first work out. chloorkop 23 08 09
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:13 am
by TRay
Gerrit Loubser wrote:Yes. The Gen 3s with a rear diff lock actually have a Torsen diff in the rear that can also be locked. The Torsen diff is a gear-type limited slip diff.
Another way to realise a lockable LSD is to use some mechanical means of modulating the pressure on the friction plates of a friction-type LSD. In the center and rear differentials of the Disco 3, Land Rover have used a worm gear driven cam system to achieve this. These Disco 3 diffs can vary smoothly from being open through being LSDs to being fully locked, all under electronic control.
Thanks Gerrit, just the answer I was looking for.
Jaco Vosloo wrote:This weekend I fitted a different rear axle (Diff) to mine.
Hey Jaco – How long did it take to fit the diff (out of interest sake)? Looks like you have done a really nice job!
Re: Pajero gets its first work out. chloorkop 23 08 09
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:02 pm
by Jaco Vosloo
TRay wrote:Gerrit Loubser wrote:Yes. The Gen 3s with a rear diff lock actually have a Torsen diff in the rear that can also be locked. The Torsen diff is a gear-type limited slip diff.
Another way to realise a lockable LSD is to use some mechanical means of modulating the pressure on the friction plates of a friction-type LSD. In the center and rear differentials of the Disco 3, Land Rover have used a worm gear driven cam system to achieve this. These Disco 3 diffs can vary smoothly from being open through being LSDs to being fully locked, all under electronic control.
Thanks Gerrit, just the answer I was looking for.
Jaco Vosloo wrote:This weekend I fitted a different rear axle (Diff) to mine.
Hey Jaco – How long did it take to fit the diff (out of interest sake)? Looks like you have done a really nice job!
Well I was doing it all alone. Friday from 4pm to 9:30pm and Saturday from 7am to 15:30.
This excludes the time to check the diff backlash and shortening the side shaft and drilling new holes into the companion flange. (I have done this last weekend)
This is basically taking the old one out swap the brakes and put the new one in.
The most difficult part is to jack the car up high enough to get the wheels rolling freely out underneath the rear bumper.
It would also have helped if the car was clean before i started. Sand continuously falling into one’s eyes