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Re: LWB Packing Systems - What would be your perfect design?

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:11 pm
by xntrek
A few great ideas being offered here, I'll be following the progress of this thread with continued interest.

I would also like to add a suggestion of an extendable shelf for use as a table. Useful for a quick bite, quick repair bench or somewhere to empty out the bags to find that gadget you know you packed ... somewhere.

Re: LWB Packing Systems - What would be your perfect design?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:39 am
by SimonB
xntrek wrote:A few great ideas being offered here, I'll be following the progress of this thread with continued interest.

I would also like to add a suggestion of an extendable shelf for use as a table. Useful for a quick bite, quick repair bench or somewhere to empty out the bags to find that gadget you know you packed ... somewhere.
I was considering a table but eventually settled on one that mounts under the roofrack. Removes some if the design complexity

Re: LWB Packing Systems - What would be your perfect design?

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:05 pm
by SimonB
I eventually collected my stuff from Megaworld, as part of my SA4x4 / Frontrunner prize winnings.

This includes the roof-rack mounted table (which I fitted yesterday) and water tank. To my disappointment it doesn't include any piping. Can anyone suggest the kind of pump that would be required?

Re: LWB Packing Systems - What would be your perfect design?

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:03 pm
by hogbeast
Gen 2 pajero, I concluded the rear seat cannot adjust forward, right?

ques, ideas to mod. the seat to move it forward to fit the packing system
i need about 50-100mm

Re: LWB Packing Systems - What would be your perfect design?

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:34 pm
by andrew.ashton
SimonB wrote:I eventually collected my stuff from Megaworld, as part of my SA4x4 / Frontrunner prize winnings.

This includes the roof-rack mounted table (which I fitted yesterday) and water tank. To my disappointment it doesn't include any piping. Can anyone suggest the kind of pump that would be required?
1. Congrats - did you get the rear side window conversion or was that not possible / not available?
2. Which water tank did you get & where are you locating it?

I fitted the sloped Pioneer 55litre one behind my rear seats and gravity feed works fine. All you need is a 1/4 turn plastic valve, a length of clear tubing and a couple of hose clamp from your friendly irrigation place - much cheaper than the kits at the 4x4 / outdoor places.

If you only need a bit of pressure you could pressurise your tank slightly with your compressor or a compressed air cannister like a Soda Stream cartridge and regulator - it will save a lot of complexity (and a little weight), I think.

Re: LWB Packing Systems - What would be your perfect design?

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:17 am
by KaiV
The Pioneer tanks come with a little ball valve attached. (At least mine did)
I took that off and effectively replaced the valve at the end of the line.
Also, take your time with the assembly of the hose and hose clamps.

Ask me,,,,,,, what a blerry mission to clean out 80L of water in the back of the car never mind drying everything after one of the hose clamps came loose.......

I have now fitted the hose with two hose clamps at every joint

Re: LWB Packing Systems - What would be your perfect design?

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:56 pm
by andrew.ashton
KaiV wrote:The Pioneer tanks come with a little ball valve attached. (At least mine did)
I took that off and effectively replaced the valve at the end of the line.
I left the Pioneer OEM valve in place (was worried about creating a leak by removing it) and then put a second valve from the irrigation shop at the outlet end of the hose.
That also means I can close both valves when touring or in arid places where no drinking water is available for extra safety.

Re: LWB Packing Systems - What would be your perfect design?

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:29 am
by SimonB
andrew.ashton wrote:
1. Congrats - did you get the rear side window conversion or was that not possible / not available?
2. Which water tank did you get & where are you locating it?

I fitted the sloped Pioneer 55litre one behind my rear seats and gravity feed works fine. All you need is a 1/4 turn plastic valve, a length of clear tubing and a couple of hose clamp from your friendly irrigation place - much cheaper than the kits at the 4x4 / outdoor places.

If you only need a bit of pressure you could pressurise your tank slightly with your compressor or a compressed air cannister like a Soda Stream cartridge and regulator - it will save a lot of complexity (and a little weight), I think.
I got the front runner one that goes over the wheel arches. I like the idea of pressurizing it with a compressor but not sure it can be done to deliver a shower, which is something I had in mind

Re: LWB Packing Systems - What would be your perfect design?

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:25 pm
by andrew.ashton
SimonB wrote: I got the front runner one that goes over the wheel arches. I like the idea of pressurizing it with a compressor but not sure it can be done to deliver a shower, which is something I had in mind
I must admit the water in my water tank is primarily for drinking. When the trip requires it I use solar showers (the black bags) because I don't need to use potable water for showers - almost any old river water / brak well water will do.

For a camp shower I guess you would need about 50kPa pressure (that's about 5m head of water) in your tank and a delivery rate of less than 10lpm (that's what a low flow domestic shower head delivers). What do FrontRunner say about the pressure rating of their tank?

I am open to correction, so anyone like to confirm the 50kPa as a suitable pressure for a camp shower?

Re: LWB Packing Systems - What would be your perfect design?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:08 pm
by sixmaniac
I am playing with the idea of fitting a watertank and 3rd battery in the space underneath the floor where the 3rd row of seats are stored. (Gen 4)This will keep the centre of gravity down and since you need minimum access to these, it can be done by fully removing a drawer. In order to maximise the water capacity, one will unfortunately need either a bladder/bag type or a custom moulded tank. Any suggestions on someone that can do these?