Pajero Owners Club of South Africa

Nick Gibson wrote:Just picked up my new tyres this morning, need to drive another few thousand km on my BFG before I put them on though.

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Looking good.

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Kennekam wrote:Think I have narrowed it down. In more ways than one. I am going back to 265/65/17 from my current 275/65/17. There are so few options for the wider tire and will be impossible to replace when over landing.

So now the choice is between the Geolanders that I know and love - when new - and the Hankooks which is being recommended to me by two dealers. They are almost a R1000 more per tyre. Apart from the stronger shoulder design, I cannot see where the extra money is going.

Does anyone have experience going from Geolanders to Dynapro ATMs? Or vice versa? My main interests are noise, comfort and resistance to punctures.

I have no firsthand experience but I have spoken to a few people who felt that the Dynapros were too easily cut or punctured. I have decided to give them a miss, personally, because of this, even though they are a lot cheaper than my favourite, although noisy, BFG AT KO's.

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My 2c worth...

I recently purchased a 2006 3,2 DID SWB. I collected it in Durban and drove it straight back to Cape Town. The car had Bridgestone Duelers fitted, with 50% tread left. By the time I got to CPT I was partially deaf. Literally took a few hours for my ears to come right after every longish drive.

I did some homework over the space of about a month - all makes, prices and fitment people. Eventually went with a set of Geolanders from Mufasa Tyres - I fitted 5 and threw the duelers in the bin! They are horrible tyres, noisy, uncomfortable and IMHO unstable. (Also fitted new shocks by the way - if you're gonna do something do it properly)

I am more than happy with the Geolanders A/T's, they are super quiet, very comfortable and very grippy on tar. On gravel they are really awesome too, instills confidence on corrugated gravel. Had them in the mountains and in Atlantis Dunes - I have never wished for another tire. I thought I was compromising when I bought them but I am very happy with the offroad and gravel road performance, as well as on road and wet road performance.

The Geolander A/T is also the closest you will get to BFG or Cooper sidewall reliability - The Coopers and BFG's have proper 3 ply sidewalls. The Geolander A/T's have a 2 ply but folded over - effectively making it a "4 ply" sidewall.

I've done a tankwa trip on them, relatively highspeed gravel road driving (Trying to keep up with motorbikes) and they impressed me immensely, zero tyre failures / punctures / sidewall failures. I highly recommend them!

Kapow wrote:My 2c worth...

I recently purchased a 2006 3,2 DID SWB. I collected it in Durban and drove it straight back to Cape Town. The car had Bridgestone Duelers fitted, with 50% tread left. By the time I got to CPT I was partially deaf. Literally took a few hours for my ears to come right after every longish drive.

I did some homework over the space of about a month - all makes, prices and fitment people. Eventually went with a set of Geolanders from Mufasa Tyres - I fitted 5 and threw the duelers in the bin! They are horrible tyres, noisy, uncomfortable and IMHO unstable. (Also fitted new shocks by the way - if you're gonna do something do it properly)

I am more than happy with the Geolanders A/T's, they are super quiet, very comfortable and very grippy on tar. On gravel they are really awesome too, instills confidence on corrugated gravel. Had them in the mountains and in Atlantis Dunes - I have never wished for another tire. I thought I was compromising when I bought them but I am very happy with the offroad and gravel road performance, as well as on road and wet road performance.

The Geolander A/T is also the closest you will get to BFG or Cooper sidewall reliability - The Coopers and BFG's have proper 3 ply sidewalls. The Geolander A/T's have a 2 ply but folded over - effectively making it a "4 ply" sidewall.

I've done a tankwa trip on them, relatively highspeed gravel road driving (Trying to keep up with motorbikes) and they impressed me immensely, zero tyre failures / punctures / sidewall failures. I highly recommend them!

I presume you went for the standard size 265/65/17?

Yes, I stayed standard. I upped the tyre size on my disco before I sold it and it played havoc with my odometer and speedometer, also made it pap on the low end...

This is my everyday drive, so didn't want to fiddle too much.

Hi Everyone, I guess that tyres is very much a personal thing and I can only give "advise" according to my experience.
I run on Hankook Dynapro ATM's.(Now for just more than 70 000km)
As all of us basically do "normal/Tar road)" usage 90% of the time I found the soft compound of the Hankook's give a very comfortable ride with quite low noise levels.
I did 3 Sand trips in Namibia with them:
- Swakop to Kunene River Mouth and Kaokoland
- Luderitz to Walvis
- Saddle Hill
Again the Soft Compound of the tyre create a super footprint at 1-1.2Bar.
Therefore I will recomend the Hankooks any time.
It also did pretty well in the recent Tyre Tests that was done by "Wegry" Magazine
Regards

Greetings.

Mitsubishi worked with Bridgestone and they actually developed a tyre for the vehicle.

Every body has their own preference, but i have always used Bridgestone A/T and in fact just replaced mine last month.

Punctures are like standing on a thorn bare foot. It is not the tyre, but where the tyre actually touched the rock and how it touched the surface that causes the puncture. No tyres is better or worst when it comes to getting a puncture.

I was in the tyres game at a very senior position for years, and have a fairly good idea what I am talking about.

For the best all round tyre for a Pajero, look at the Bridgestone A/T.

A lot a guys like a certain brand because their friend had them or because of price, but all said the best match for what you want is the tyre that goes with the vehicle.

Comfort, quietness, mileage, good in the wet and good in the sand.

Not the cheapest but the correct application for what you want and well matched to the vehicle.

Where my Pajero has been and what it has been through, I doubt too many other Pajero's have been through, and remember mine weighs in at 3.5 tonnes when fully loaded for a month in the bush. Not your average Pajero by any means. Tyres have never given me a problem.

I have done all the areas and countries in all the seasons and have had my tyres as hard as 3.5 bar pressure down to 1 bar with no problems. Sidewalls can take the punishment even so loaded at 1 bar.

Uneven wear, just so you know is caused by either not rotating the tyres as you should, or shocks that are faulty. This is also much more common on the tyres with bigger and more chunky tread lugs, which in fact should not be used more on road than off road as they are not designed to be used like that. A mistake many people make. Don't buy a tyre that looks good and is not the correct tyre for your application. A very common fault. Possibly the most common fault, looks over application.

Regards

Wayne

Renegade wrote:Greetings.

Mitsubishi worked with Bridgestone and they actually developed a tyre for the vehicle.

Every body has their own preference, but i have always used Bridgestone A/T and in fact just replaced mine last month.

Punctures are like standing on a thorn bare foot. It is not the tyre, but where the tyre actually touched the rock and how it touched the surface that causes the puncture. No tyres is better or worst when it comes to getting a puncture.

I was in the tyres game at a very senior position for years, and have a fairly good idea what I am talking about.

For the best all round tyre for a Pajero, look at the Bridgestone A/T.

A lot a guys like a certain brand because their friend had them or because of price, but all said the best match for what you want is the tyre that goes with the vehicle.

Comfort, quietness, mileage, good in the wet and good in the sand.

Not the cheapest but the correct application for what you want and well matched to the vehicle.

Where my Pajero has been and what it has been through, I doubt too many other Pajero's have been through, and remember mine weighs in at 3.5 tonnes when fully loaded for a month in the bush. Not your average Pajero by any means. Tyres have never given me a problem.

I have done all the areas and countries in all the seasons and have had my tyres as hard as 3.5 bar pressure down to 1 bar with no problems. Sidewalls can take the punishment even so loaded at 1 bar.

Uneven wear, just so you know is caused by either not rotating the tyres as you should, or shocks that are faulty. This is also much more common on the tyres with bigger and more chunky tread lugs, which in fact should not be used more on road than off road as they are not designed to be used like that. A mistake many people make. Don't buy a tyre that looks good and is not the correct tyre for your application. A very common fault. Possibly the most common fault, looks over application.

Regards

Wayne

Just from personal experience I found the Bridgestones to get very noisy at a certain point. I found this on the tyres that were on my car when I bought it. And speaking to others that used the Bridgestone A/T say they wouldn't choose them again over the likes of the BFG because of tyre failures and weak sidewalls. Unfortunately due to the noise levels and poor reports from numerous users I could not justify replacing the bridgstones with new bridgstones.

You're quite correct though, poor tyre maintenance can affect noise levels poorly. As well as pose other problems down the line. However certain tyre types are more susceptible developing a noise/rumble. And that is one thing that personally I cannot live with. I tried and I did live with it - for one month and that is all I could take. Putting the Yoko's on my pajero is a decision I would make again again over the Duelers, I personally feel its a better tyre but this seems to be quite a subjective topic - so let me say they are better for me, maybe not for everyone.

I bought some 50% used Bridgestone D694 A/T from a very good friend who was coaxed by a clever TWT salesman to replace them because of one gater plug he had to have out in. They are much noisier than the 50% worn Hankook Dynapro ATM that I had on but I am happy with them so far, they look okay and once you get used to the sound they are not that bad. I haven't taken them offroad yet so can't really compare them too much yet.

Kapow wrote:

Renegade wrote:Greetings.

Mitsubishi worked with Bridgestone and they actually developed a tyre for the vehicle.

Every body has their own preference, but i have always used Bridgestone A/T and in fact just replaced mine last month.

Punctures are like standing on a thorn bare foot. It is not the tyre, but where the tyre actually touched the rock and how it touched the surface that causes the puncture. No tyres is better or worst when it comes to getting a puncture.

I was in the tyres game at a very senior position for years, and have a fairly good idea what I am talking about.

For the best all round tyre for a Pajero, look at the Bridgestone A/T.

A lot a guys like a certain brand because their friend had them or because of price, but all said the best match for what you want is the tyre that goes with the vehicle.

Comfort, quietness, mileage, good in the wet and good in the sand.

Not the cheapest but the correct application for what you want and well matched to the vehicle.

Where my Pajero has been and what it has been through, I doubt too many other Pajero's have been through, and remember mine weighs in at 3.5 tonnes when fully loaded for a month in the bush. Not your average Pajero by any means. Tyres have never given me a problem.

I have done all the areas and countries in all the seasons and have had my tyres as hard as 3.5 bar pressure down to 1 bar with no problems. Sidewalls can take the punishment even so loaded at 1 bar.

Uneven wear, just so you know is caused by either not rotating the tyres as you should, or shocks that are faulty. This is also much more common on the tyres with bigger and more chunky tread lugs, which in fact should not be used more on road than off road as they are not designed to be used like that. A mistake many people make. Don't buy a tyre that looks good and is not the correct tyre for your application. A very common fault. Possibly the most common fault, looks over application.

Regards

Wayne

Just from personal experience I found the Bridgestones to get very noisy at a certain point. I found this on the tyres that were on my car when I bought it. And speaking to others that used the Bridgestone A/T say they wouldn't choose them again over the likes of the BFG because of tyre failures and weak sidewalls. Unfortunately due to the noise levels and poor reports from numerous users I could not justify replacing the bridgstones with new bridgstones.

You're quite correct though, poor tyre maintenance can affect noise levels poorly. As well as pose other problems down the line. However certain tyre types are more susceptible developing a noise/rumble. And that is one thing that personally I cannot live with. I tried and I did live with it - for one month and that is all I could take. Putting the Yoko's on my pajero is a decision I would make again again over the Duelers, I personally feel its a better tyre but this seems to be quite a subjective topic - so let me say they are better for me, maybe not for everyone.

+1

I agree with personal experience of the Bridgestone dueller d694 tyres. I will not put them on unless I get them for free.

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