eswan
Re: Pajero gen3 front noise
No the cv's are fine. I had them checked, greased, and new boots put on as a "preventative maintanance" job. My first reaction was also outer cv's, but according to the suspension expert in Mossel Bay (the guy who did the job), the cv's do not even have any marks on them. I understand that Pajero cv's can last a long time. I guess the only way to be certain is to remove the cv's and drive without them, but this is a job I do not look forward to as you have to do everything x2. I just did the wheel bearings, ball joints etc. Not a difficult job, actually quite an enjoyable one, but once a year is enough.
paw_by_paw
Re: Pajero gen3 front noise
I see it was also noticed but would have said CV joint or a faulty shock if all ball joints and steering links is fine.
Have you checked the pitman arm?
I do not know if a "pap" coil spring can do that?
I had a similar problem but on my GEN 2 and it was the shock mounting on top that was loose.
eswan
Re: Pajero gen3 front noise
I took my vehicle to my local vehicle testing station. There is no noise when on their machine. I have also checked the top bolts of the shocks, all tight.
The noise is most evident when parking, turning the steering wheel while moving slowly. How long do outer cv's last on a pajero? Mine has only done 139000km. I had them checked and reported fine.
Re: Pajero gen3 front noise
  • You have 'eliminated' the following (by replacing them):
    • front wheel hubs/bearings
    • upper ball joints
    • lower ball joints
    • tie rod ends
  • Anti-sway bars
    eswan wrote:I also tested the sway bar links, they are fine.
    How did you test them?
    I would remove the complete anti-sway bars, which gives you the opportunity to replace all the flexible bushes.
    Drive without these, and see whether the noise is gone/different/same.
  • You are convinced that the CV joints are OK (but have not proved this).
  • The following items still need checking (although it seems as if the noise is there only when the wheels turn?):
    • Pitman arm
    • Idler arm
  • Wash the suspension and drive area. Spray all moving components with Q20 and check for changes in the noise.
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eswan
Re: Pajero gen3 front noise
What do you mean? The gen3 does not have a pitman arm/idler arm like the older Pajeros. I did remove the whole stabilizer bar and links, same noise without it. Cannot be cv's as the noise is not constant. When steering is on full lock to the left, reversing slowly, it makes 1 or 2 "clicks/cluncks" and then quiet untill driving forward again.
eswan
Re: Pajero gen3 front noise
No, never had a broken boot or grease coming out. Had them inspected when I first noticed the noise, had them re-greased and new boots fitted. Mechanic reported no marks on the insides/ball bearings.
RoelfleRoux
Re: Pajero gen3 front noise
Eswan,

You guys have truly explores all avenues.

Is it not something simple like a bolt somewhere on the steering/suspension/sub-frame that isn't fully tight? The fact that you only hear it when the force direction is changed, and then not again, makes me think it is something like two components that "re-adjust" in relation to each other and then settle in again.

I had a similar symptom on a new V6 Sani two decades ago (sure - completely different suspension set-up as your Pajero), but Nissan couldn't pin the problem after replacing various steering parts under warranty. I wheel alignment shop found and tightened the slightly under torqued bolt.

Roelf
eswan
Re: Pajero gen3 front noise
Hi Roelf.
What you are saying makes sense. I have been under my Pajero many times trying to find a loose bolt or a telltale where I can see shining metal due to movement. Maybe I should take the torque settings, climb in there and re-torque every bolt I can find?
Vic
Re: Pajero gen3 front noise
Hi Eswan.

I had the same problem and went through the same problem solving exercise. The sound that you hear, is it a suspension sound or a sound from the body? After 6 month of searching I finally made I out to myself that the sound came from the body at the left hand side only when I turned as you said when you park. So what I did is to remove the plastic inside the front fender and find a lose bolt. I think it is one of the bolts that fasten the front bumper, and after that, problem solved.
eswan
Re: Pajero gen3 front noise
It is very difficult to tell as the sound travels through the front. Not likely to be bumber as my bumber was totally removed a while back to be re-sprayed. Sound was there before and after re-spray.
Must be suspension or steering. Sound only there while moving, not there when standing and just turning steering from left to right, so can probably rule out steering. What about engine mounts? They look fine, but how do you test them?
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