Hi there
I'd like to do a few mods on my Gen 4.
I'm new to the forum as far as posting goes, but have searched for some info on free flow, branch and chip mods. No luck. Maybe I need to learn to use the search better . . . .
Does anyone here have some info or experience regarding mods like this?
I have a 2009 3.8 Lwb but still under warranty which I would prefer not being voided. 1 quote I got runs to almost R10k which I think is a bit excessive for only around 15kw improvement.
Any comments and ideas will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
Chris
Chris
Someone has to say it, so I will, even though many others will disagree: Chips is what we eat here in SA and freeflow is what happens if you eat old chips.
Leave the go fast mods as they tend to never repay the initial investment.
Having said that. It is your money and if that is what you want then go for it. Just dont expect to better those clever whitecoats from Japan by much.
CATS
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Someone has to say it, so I will, even though many others will disagree: Chips is what we eat here in SA and freeflow is what happens if you eat old chips.
Leave the go fast mods as they tend to never repay the initial investment.
Having said that. It is your money and if that is what you want then go for it. Just dont expect to better those clever whitecoats from Japan by much.
CATS
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2009 Pajero 3.2 DiDc Lwb GLS (Gen4) - Casper (Starting to grow on me)
2001 Pajero 3.2 DiD Lwb GLS Manual (Gen3) - Snoopy (SOLD but not forgotten)
2008 Pajero 3.2 DiDc Lwb GLS Auto (Gen4) - Silvester (SOLD)
2001 Pajero 3.2 DiD Lwb GLS Manual (Gen3) - Snoopy (SOLD but not forgotten)
2008 Pajero 3.2 DiDc Lwb GLS Auto (Gen4) - Silvester (SOLD)
I have a gen3 3.5 v6. I bought it with cracked exhaust manifolds so I put branches on as they are cheaper (by more than half) than OEM manifolds. I also changed the centre box out as kept hooking on rocks doing trails, for a slimmer box which turned out a to be a cowley free flow box. I also found a dastek unichip fitted by the previous owner when wiring my dual battry system, I had it re-mapped at KSD in stikland, got only got a few more KW...
Pros: Sounds like a proper V6 now, engine is more free revving in the dunes. More reliable than standardd manifolds, more ground clearance under chassis. Marginal upper RPM increase in KW.
Cons: Loud exhaust drone at 120kph. Loss of low down torque. Hotter engine bay temps off road at slow speeds.
In summary I would not spend the money on a "chip" on a naturally aspirated motor, not enough parameters to play with to make any meaningful power or fuel economy gains. Also keep the standard manifolds on the motor if you can help it, they will keep the torque curve low down where you need it, that 3.8MIVEC motor has more than enough power without any mods... M2CW
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Pros: Sounds like a proper V6 now, engine is more free revving in the dunes. More reliable than standardd manifolds, more ground clearance under chassis. Marginal upper RPM increase in KW.
Cons: Loud exhaust drone at 120kph. Loss of low down torque. Hotter engine bay temps off road at slow speeds.
In summary I would not spend the money on a "chip" on a naturally aspirated motor, not enough parameters to play with to make any meaningful power or fuel economy gains. Also keep the standard manifolds on the motor if you can help it, they will keep the torque curve low down where you need it, that 3.8MIVEC motor has more than enough power without any mods... M2CW
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Nicholas Gibson
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
2005 Gen 3 Pajero 3.2 DiD Auto LWB
Mods:
ARB front bumper, OME, Lynx Bash Plate, Lynx Rock-sliders, Lynx rear steel bumper, Front Runner 40lt Long range tank, Madman EMS2 with EGT, dual battery system, 700FF spots
Corsa 1.4 Club (swambo)
Cape Town
"In my house I'm the boss, my wife is just the decision maker." - Woody Allen
CATS, well noted.
What I would disagree with is that the standard exhaust is designed for lower emissions as well as noise reduction. This hampers the flow. So theoretically just by removing the catalytic converter you should get a better flow of gas.
I was worried about the setting up of the management system afterwards because I'm not sure if the current setup will automatically adjust to the better exhausting of air. Hence the leaning towards a chip.
Nick, thanks for the info.
Having the nicer sound would be an awesome advantage. It is the fuel economy that is a bit bothersome. Now I did buy the Pajero knowing full well fuel economy is not a strong point at all. But would like to improve it a little. I've seen members show 14,7 l/100km in their signatures and wonder if they drive highway at 80km/h all the time. My average is around 16 l/100km. Anything less and I'm already smiling. I will be traveling up to the vaal next week, so will measure carefully on the way up. Towing down so that will suck anyway.
Regards
Chris
What I would disagree with is that the standard exhaust is designed for lower emissions as well as noise reduction. This hampers the flow. So theoretically just by removing the catalytic converter you should get a better flow of gas.
I was worried about the setting up of the management system afterwards because I'm not sure if the current setup will automatically adjust to the better exhausting of air. Hence the leaning towards a chip.
Nick, thanks for the info.
Having the nicer sound would be an awesome advantage. It is the fuel economy that is a bit bothersome. Now I did buy the Pajero knowing full well fuel economy is not a strong point at all. But would like to improve it a little. I've seen members show 14,7 l/100km in their signatures and wonder if they drive highway at 80km/h all the time. My average is around 16 l/100km. Anything less and I'm already smiling. I will be traveling up to the vaal next week, so will measure carefully on the way up. Towing down so that will suck anyway.
Regards
Chris
2009 Mitsubishi Pajero 3.8v6 LWB
All petrol baby!!!
All petrol baby!!!
Stoffie,
I suppose I'm the member with the 14.7 signature
you refer to
I sure as heck don't cruise at 80. I set the cruise control at the speed limit and that is it.
My daily consumption is horrendous, when I got home this afternoon the dash read-out was 21-something. The low numbers I get is on a flat open road, at the speed limit. I run standard sized (265/65x17) Good Year AT/SA Wranglers and don't care too much about pressure
. My speedometer over reads by less than 2% and the odo is accurate to about the fourth decimal 
My recent Namibia trip (one of the currently active threads) returned 12.5L/100km.
If I could change my usage pattern - in other words less short distance and more open road, then my consumption will easily creep down to 13
I suppose I'm the member with the 14.7 signature
you refer toI sure as heck don't cruise at 80. I set the cruise control at the speed limit and that is it.
My daily consumption is horrendous, when I got home this afternoon the dash read-out was 21-something. The low numbers I get is on a flat open road, at the speed limit. I run standard sized (265/65x17) Good Year AT/SA Wranglers and don't care too much about pressure
. My speedometer over reads by less than 2% and the odo is accurate to about the fourth decimal My recent Namibia trip (one of the currently active threads) returned 12.5L/100km.
If I could change my usage pattern - in other words less short distance and more open road, then my consumption will easily creep down to 13
Well, I'm still slowly recuperating after the horrendous trip so will just give you the highlights.
Trip up to JHB averaged around 13.7L/100km at 120km/h packed with 4 adults and baggage. Back down was a lot more troublesome. 4 wheel trailer, pickup and extras loaded on it. I found out later my careful load distribution on the trailer was all wrong which resulted in a 20 hour drive at 68km/h. Anything faster resulted in violent swinging. This did however help keep the consumption down and an average of 18L/100km was averaged.
Roelf, do you have any mods fitted? Are the road noise acceptable on the good years? I have Dunlops and it gets noisy around 100km/h.
Trip up to JHB averaged around 13.7L/100km at 120km/h packed with 4 adults and baggage. Back down was a lot more troublesome. 4 wheel trailer, pickup and extras loaded on it. I found out later my careful load distribution on the trailer was all wrong which resulted in a 20 hour drive at 68km/h. Anything faster resulted in violent swinging. This did however help keep the consumption down and an average of 18L/100km was averaged.
Roelf, do you have any mods fitted? Are the road noise acceptable on the good years? I have Dunlops and it gets noisy around 100km/h.
2009 Mitsubishi Pajero 3.8v6 LWB
All petrol baby!!!
All petrol baby!!!
Stoffie,
My car is absolutely standard.
If I had to give you my real, honest opinion on the Wranglers, you would think I work for them
I'm totally impressed with them. They are really quiet, have good grip on wet and dry tar, absorb little road hobbles very well (I had them fitted before the dashboard brackets, so I was very aware of road hobbles), my mate on our Damara trip also has Wrangles on and we had no tyre issues after quite a bit of no-road travel through a rock-field and they seem to be lasting very well.
My car is absolutely standard.
If I had to give you my real, honest opinion on the Wranglers, you would think I work for them
I'm totally impressed with them. They are really quiet, have good grip on wet and dry tar, absorb little road hobbles very well (I had them fitted before the dashboard brackets, so I was very aware of road hobbles), my mate on our Damara trip also has Wrangles on and we had no tyre issues after quite a bit of no-road travel through a rock-field and they seem to be lasting very well.