I have just spent the past 2 hours researching AT tyres online. There are many conflicting opinions - which I can understand because they're born out of experience. However, some trends do emerge but I need to do a lot more homework before I buy.
I would appreciate some advice. I have 2007 LWB Gen3. Currently I have 16" Yokohama Geolander AT but they will soon need replacing. I want an "agressive" AT, if that even makes sense?
I am quite cost sensitive. Therefore I want to cross off BF Goodrich.
I am tending towards Hancook, Coopers (pricey?) and Yokos.
Any comment on cheap but good AT options?
Much appreciated,
Michael
I have Hankooks and would replace them with the same in a heartbeat.
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Im running Hankooks now, but will go back to GF's once these are done.
Thanks, I will have a good look at Hankook and Coopers.
I understand that prices can vary quite considerably from one supplier to another.
I understand that if you go cheaper you get to a point where you get what you pay for. I certainly don't want cheap for cheap sake. Looking for the tyre that has provided good value for cost conscious pajero drivers.
Can someone help me with this -
I assume that the chunkier the tread pattern on an AT, the more like a MT is becomes, and therefore the less suited for economical and smooth on-road driving, but the better the off-road capability. Is this a simplistic view?
In other words, I see the AT as a spectrum of tyres between road tyres and MTs, and some ATs are more MT-like than others.
Therefore, based on the above assumptions, I am looking for a good value AT that is "agressive" i.e. on the MT side of the spectrum.
Is my thinking correct?
Also - What do you look for in an AT that tells you whether it is better on sand or gravel or wet off-road conditions?
I understand that prices can vary quite considerably from one supplier to another.
I understand that if you go cheaper you get to a point where you get what you pay for. I certainly don't want cheap for cheap sake. Looking for the tyre that has provided good value for cost conscious pajero drivers.
Can someone help me with this -
I assume that the chunkier the tread pattern on an AT, the more like a MT is becomes, and therefore the less suited for economical and smooth on-road driving, but the better the off-road capability. Is this a simplistic view?
In other words, I see the AT as a spectrum of tyres between road tyres and MTs, and some ATs are more MT-like than others.
Therefore, based on the above assumptions, I am looking for a good value AT that is "agressive" i.e. on the MT side of the spectrum.
Is my thinking correct?
Also - What do you look for in an AT that tells you whether it is better on sand or gravel or wet off-road conditions?
I've seen some really nice Kumos, especially the mud terrains (MT) And at less than half the price of BF's you can replace them twice as often! BUT, don't know what they are like to own so ummm? Any experience out there? And I'm running BF's and Dunlops (caught in the sticks and the only tyre available)
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3.5 GLS F/LIF 1998 Lost to the x wife
3200 Tdi GSL 2001 Written off
3200 Di-D 5Dr A/T 2002 338 000 Sold
3500i A/T 5Dr 2001 Sold
3.2 Di-Dc GLS A/T 2008
My brother & I have the same LWB Pajeros. He recently bought Hankooks and I bought Bridgestone Duellers.
I would say the Hankooks give a better ride, are quieter and seem to wear about the same as the Dueller.
Dave
I would say the Hankooks give a better ride, are quieter and seem to wear about the same as the Dueller.
Dave
Just had the following quote:
Nankang
265/70R16 FT7 AT – R1910
265/70R16 N830 AT – R1910
Hankook
265/70R16 Dynapro RF10 AT (4PR) – R1825
265/70R16 Dynapro RF10 AT (10PR) – R2940
Unigrip
265/70R16 Gripmax AT – R1630
Kumho
265/70R16 KL78 AT – R2175
265/70R16 KL61 AT – R2140
Yokohama
265/70R16 Geolander G012 AT – R1965
Achilles
265/70R16 Desert Hawk AT – R1845
Cooper
265/70R16 Discoverer AT3 – R2485
BF Goodrich
KO AT – to confirm
Bridgestone
Dueler D697 AT – R2595
Firestone
Destination LE02 AT – R1760
Goodyear
Wrangler AT/SA – R2700
General
Grabber AT – R1840
Pirelli
Scorpion ATR – R1940
Mickey Thompson
STZ AT – R3420
Nankang
265/70R16 FT7 AT – R1910
265/70R16 N830 AT – R1910
Hankook
265/70R16 Dynapro RF10 AT (4PR) – R1825
265/70R16 Dynapro RF10 AT (10PR) – R2940
Unigrip
265/70R16 Gripmax AT – R1630
Kumho
265/70R16 KL78 AT – R2175
265/70R16 KL61 AT – R2140
Yokohama
265/70R16 Geolander G012 AT – R1965
Achilles
265/70R16 Desert Hawk AT – R1845
Cooper
265/70R16 Discoverer AT3 – R2485
BF Goodrich
KO AT – to confirm
Bridgestone
Dueler D697 AT – R2595
Firestone
Destination LE02 AT – R1760
Goodyear
Wrangler AT/SA – R2700
General
Grabber AT – R1840
Pirelli
Scorpion ATR – R1940
Mickey Thompson
STZ AT – R3420
Best value for money for me (265/65R17) was between the wrangler and the hankook. In the end the hankook was R250 per tyre more expensive, and as I was replacing 5 I went with the wranglers.
Your price on the wrangler is crazy - I got mine for a larger rim size at R1850... Maybe get a quote from Tyremart?
Your price on the wrangler is crazy - I got mine for a larger rim size at R1850... Maybe get a quote from Tyremart?
Hi Michael,mic_zw wrote:I have just spent the past 2 hours researching AT tyres online. There are many conflicting opinions - which I can understand because they're born out of experience.
I want an "agressive" AT, if that even makes sense?
I am quite cost sensitive.
Michael
I think the key to your confusion is that you have not defined HOW you want to use these tyres and I would humbly suggest that this is the starting point.
You have to ask yourself what is your driving pattern? In the bush most days? or never in the bush / off tar? or maybe this is a daily driver (on tar every day) that you then use for 4x4 trails on weekends or that you use for lots of gravel travel twice a year for vacations etc. etc. When you are on tar, do you like to travel fast? Do you travel mostly lightly loaded or heavily loaded? Do you foresee needing to drive through mud? etc. etc.
Only once you define / consider these aspects can you really select an appropriate tyre type and then an appropriate manufacturer and model.
For instance in my case my Pajero is a daily driver AND used for wilderness camping trips. So probably 75% on tar over a year, 18% gravel, 6% bush and 1% rock. I drove for a long time on Yokohama Geolanders, which gave me great tar roadholding and were fine on sand, but the sidewalls were too soft and I experienced multiple sidewall punctures (acacia thorns). For that reason, when my tyres last came up for replacement (6 off because I carry two spares) I coughed up for BFG ATs, which are one of the few tyres that have a 3-ply sidewall. It was painful at the time, but the decision was needs driven.
As I tend to drive at a leisurely pace it did not worry me that the AT tyres may have slightly less traction on wet tar.
