Kapow
Gen3 vs Gen2
Hey guys,

Still figuring this new pajero of mine out to a certain extent. Very used to it now and finding more and more capable than I ever imagined. Very impressed.

Recently went up a mountain in Caledon with my uncle who lives there. Common sense and loads of previous 4x4 experience took me up with zero issues. Low range second gear all the way to a blown over pine blocking our progress 3/4 of the way up. We had already moved three pines from the path by way of recover rope and loads of muscle. But the last one was impossible without chainsaws.

Long story short: I remember bashing around in my mom's gen2 3.5V6 when I was 18, and being told that after you have engaged the CDL you need to reverse in a straight line for about 20m or so to relax gearbox windup / lock the freewheel hubs. We did this regularly in hers and never had issues. Is this still the case with the Gen3? I have a 3,2DiD A/T SWB.

The memory just popped into my head of having to do such things but have never thought of doing it with the gen3.
Re: Gen3 vs Gen2
Nope. Not necessary in the gen3 with Super Select. In the gen2 it was actually needed to unlock the front driveshaft hubs IIRC?

CATS
2009 Pajero 3.2 DiDc Lwb GLS (Gen4) - Casper (Starting to grow on me)
2001 Pajero 3.2 DiD Lwb GLS Manual (Gen3) - Snoopy (SOLD but not forgotten)
2008 Pajero 3.2 DiDc Lwb GLS Auto (Gen4) - Silvester (SOLD)
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Re: Gen3 vs Gen2
Hi Cats,
I'm pretty sure my Gen2 1994 3.0 V6 was already running the Super Select 4x4 system.
My memory has been shown to fail me in the past, though.
Roelf
Kapow
Re: Gen3 vs Gen2
I remember my mom's gen 2 well, it had a simpler version of the super select I think - even said so on thew spare wheel cover. You could go from 2H to 4H up to 100km/h. But to engage CDL or low range you had to stop and put the car in neutral.
Kapow
Re: Gen3 vs Gen2
Roelf_le_Roux wrote:Hi Cats,
I'm pretty sure my Gen2 1994 3.0 V6 was already running the Super Select 4x4 system.
My memory has been shown to fail me in the past, though.
Roelf
Thats the exact model my mom had. I loved that car - the V8 fuel consumption - not so much though...
Re: Gen3 vs Gen2
Roelf

Yes you are correct. Gen2 also had Super Select gearbox. On the Gen 3 the front side shaft is permanently linked/connected to the hubs and thus always synchronized enabling you to engage 4x4 on the fly. On the gen2 the hub was not permanently connected but automatically engaged when you selected 4x4.If I recall correctly you had to be at standstill the first time you engaged 4x4, but thereafter could engage on the fly, as long as the hubs were left engaged. To unlock the hubs again, and save some fuel, one had to reverse a few metres once you have decided that you are not going to use 4x4 for a while. No harm done when you left them engaged, just that they turned around using up fuel. The hubs I am referring to are the ones that the Toyota guys in those days had to get out in the mud and engage manually at each front wheel by turning a mechanism, where the Pajero was automatically done.

Hope my understanding is correct of the inner workings, but this is what I understood and was how my first Colt/l200 worked. I think the gen2, at least the first ones, was the same.

CATS
2009 Pajero 3.2 DiDc Lwb GLS (Gen4) - Casper (Starting to grow on me)
2001 Pajero 3.2 DiD Lwb GLS Manual (Gen3) - Snoopy (SOLD but not forgotten)
2008 Pajero 3.2 DiDc Lwb GLS Auto (Gen4) - Silvester (SOLD)
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Re: Gen3 vs Gen2
I think the Colts we're like that.
The Paj was shift on the fly
Re: Gen3 vs Gen2
Don't know how the Gen 2 hubs are, but as you describe it its like the case in my previous Rodeo, where the hub locks were engaged once the front drive shaft starts to move and gives some power to them. To disengage you have disengage 4WD and reverse until you hear 2 clicks from the hubs. When reversing while in 4WD you hear the clicks twice since the hubs unlock and locks again in the opposite direction resulting a short 2WD run.

The Gen 3 has the hubs permanently connected to the drive shafts and the locking happens by a mechanism inside the front differential that is activated and deactivated by vacuum when you put the lever in any 4WD position.
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